AIBU to find this slightly odd behaviour from atheist friends?

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handsandknees Mon 26-Nov-12 10:56:42

I am an Evangelical Christian. People who know me well know that. I am happy to talk about it if people want to, but I don't go on about it.

Last Easter one of my friends posted a long status on facebook basically ranting against the Christian Easter message and saying that she didn't want or need Jesus to have died for her, thank you very much. Up to her what she writes of course, but the tone was very aggressive and I wondered why. I didn't comment but later she sent me a personal message asking me what I thought of her post.

Then this week another friend posted a photo on my wall which said "Proud to say I'm an atheist". I haven't responded but just wondering why would someone do this? I am not offended just find it a bit strange.

Why do you think they would do this?

EldritchCleavage Mon 26-Nov-12 11:43:23

I am an atheist, and even I find the increasingly common try-hard shouty atheists tiresome. I don't really know why it is becoming more common, especially given that fewer people are committed believers now than ever and religion is getting less common in public life. Perhaps now that is the case, those who like to pick on a minority find Christians a tempting target?

Wallison I know a few people who I would describe as evangelical atheists.OP They're the ones who seem to worship Richard Dawkins and have very strong opinions about anyone with a religious faith.

OP unless someone has asked you to share the gospel with them, then yes I would say it is aggressive. That doesn't excuse rudeness though.

FushiaFernica Mon 26-Nov-12 11:44:09

This thread is getting really agressive now.

handsandknees Mon 26-Nov-12 11:44:15

Argh! I was responding to your first post Cogito. I don't knock on doors.

x-post

So you ARE one of those people who go around knocking on people's doors to share the gospel?

I'm sorry, but I really don't think you understand how things like this are interpreted by a lot of people. It is intrusive. And leads me to think that yes, the guy who posted on your wall was probably letting you know he's not interested, thanks.

handsandknees Mon 26-Nov-12 11:47:11

dreamingbohemian the friend who posted the photo was definitely not responding to any discussion we've had. He knows I am a Christian because I once told him I go to church, in the context of picking my dd up from a sleepover with his dd on the way to church. That's it.

bigbadbarry Mon 26-Nov-12 11:47:11

"The only reason for it I can think of is that the first person wants someone to argue that God does exist because she secretly wants to believe. It is an invitation to convince her maybe?"

LOL at this

I'm so sorry, I'm terrible with x-posts today blush

What do you consider 'sharing the gospel'?

Okay well then he was definitely just being rude.

I'm not sure there's much to 'understand', some people are just rude.

handsandknees Mon 26-Nov-12 11:51:48

Yes too many cross posts, I need to post faster!

I will talk about my faith if people want to. I also try to live my life accordingly.

Regarding the "God is so good", I wouldn't think much of that, no, but I probably wouldn't write it on my profile.

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 11:52:23

But atheism is absence of belief. It is abence of faith. The word 'evangelical' applies to beliefs. So it isn't accurate to use it to describe a person's lack of belief. Doing so just subscribes to the point of view that atheism is somehow a belief, which it isn't. I am an atheist. I don't believe in anything.

ethelb Mon 26-Nov-12 11:53:22

Its quite possible to use the term evangelism to describe the action of someone relaying information about any particular belief with the view to conversion.

It doesn't necessarily refer to Christianity so it is perfectly possible to claim an atheist is an evangelist.

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 11:54:31

But atheism isn't a particular belief, so atheists don't relay information about a belief.

I am an atheist too Wallison, as I said upthread. I know people that I refer to as evangelical atheists because they constantly mock religious beliefs and try to convert people of faith to their point of view. Would you prefer the term proselytising?

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 11:58:34

Maybe 'aggressive atheist' would be better to describe those people. I'm sorry but I do get annoyed when atheist views are co-opted by religious language because it implies that atheism is a faith like any other, when as I said the defining characteristics are rejection, lack and absence of belief.

ethelb Mon 26-Nov-12 11:58:54

It is a beleif there is no god, which is a belief. A perfectly valid one but thea belief in the absence of something does not equal absence of belief. That's just illogical and wrong I'm afraid.

ethelb Mon 26-Nov-12 11:59:47

Thejoyfil I prefer the word proselytising myself as it doesn't confuse armchair philosophers as much.

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 12:01:18

It isn't a belief. I don't believe in God because he doesn't exist. I also don't believe in the idea of self-cleaning kitchen floors because they also don't exist. Is that a belief as well.

Both good points ethel. smile

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 12:03:40

I'd rather be an 'armchair philosopher' (I assume that you are talking about me, even though you didn't address me) than someone who tells other people and labels their conclusions as a 'belief' when they are specifically saying to you that it is not.

Wallison you believe that God doesn't exist. I believe the same thing. It is still a belief.

ethelb Mon 26-Nov-12 12:04:08

@wallison no that's knowledge

Wallison Mon 26-Nov-12 12:06:04

I don't 'believe that God doesn't exist'. I don't, in fact, believe in anything.

Hopeforever Mon 26-Nov-12 12:06:23

Having just seen another thread I'm wondering if 4X4 drivers are more evangelical about their cars than Christians are about their faith.
grin

FushiaFernica Mon 26-Nov-12 12:07:24

wallison if someone sent you a Christmas card with religious message and picture would that offend you?

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