in finding the term 'Engand manager' very, very annoying...

[LadyMontdore]

...when they are refering to a football manager not the prime bloody minister. There are many sports with managers.

Also why is it headlines, even on R 4.

yabu what a waste of a post

lol at waste of a post

Christ, that's 80% of mumsnet then.

I don't really agree with you OP but I wish they would shut the fuck up about football all the day long. Boring bastards.

Waste of an answer ?

Not as annoying as people who misspell thread titles .

at Engand.

"England manger" please - I agree.

I understand why it's on the news though - lots of people think football is important/interesting.

The use of the term "england manager" is not something I give a lot of thought to but YADNBU about the news coverage and the fact that it is the top story on the BBC. Can't understand why the BBC consider this to be the most important thing going on in the world.

sloathy - this is the same BBC which devoted 20 mintues of a 30 minute new bulletin to tell us all about Mr Beckham- either being dropped or retiring from the England team

It's the national sport, everyone knows what sport "England manager" refers to in this context.. try and focus your frustrations elsewhere..

Saltire - perhaps it's unrealistic of me to expect the BBC to inform us of, well, y'know real news?

Lousy spelling OP. Everyone knows its Engerland :)

Am I the only one dubious of Redknapp's acquittal and sudden reappearance as manger?

I doubt anyone in the world thinks that the UK has a manager and not a political head. I very much doubt that there are many people that do not know that the UK has a Queen or King.

So that leaves England's national game (every nation has at least one), our language has developed to allow for this.

I am not from UK heritage and cricket or rugby are my families national games, btw.

I have no interest in football, except to enjoy the atmosphere in a pub when England are playing.

Football brings in lots of money for my city and the country. I think that you need to get over it, tbh.

I agree. I also think it should be specified that (99% of the time), it's the men's team and competition being discussed. That applies to pretty much any media reference to team sports.

It doesnt need to be specified.. everyone knows that it refers to the football team, and that it is the mens football team.

I am not sure why it is making such headline news on the main news, but then I am not a really big fan of football anyway.... even so, I still know who they are referring to.

Ooo, good point veronica.

IMO on national news progs they should say 'The England Football Manager'.

Is football the national game? Is that an official thing? Most men people I know prefer fishing or rugby. I am lucky enough not to know any people who actually watch / care about football. I just find it weird that it's assumed that most people care, surely more people don't watch footbal than do watch it. It's a phrasing that gives a sort of built in assumption that the 'England Manager' is somehow does something more important than just training some blokes to kick a ball about or whatever he does.

People are being slaughtered in Syria and the BBC get our PM to comment on sport. I think that is something to get annoyed about.

Funnily enough there was a prog on R4 this very lunch time about the history of sport and football started as an 'elite' game for gentlemen. Then one amature club somewhere became very good and then eventually the game became professional at which point 'working class' men were able to play and earn a living from it and it really took off. Then the clubs became businesses etc. This is what I gathered anyway!

Lady- yes football is the national game.

Fishing is a sport, as is boxing.

Football has been regarded as the working classes game for centuries. So many played it and it became popular that it is England's national gam,who took it around the world with them.

they were speaking to the prime minister about it earlier i must admit i was scratching my head ITS BLOODY FOOTBALL for crying out loud is it really news and do we need to have the PM talking about it ,

Lady- football started as a game played by the working class. The rules that we know today was started by gentlemen.

I didn't mean that football wasn't played in other countries,i ment the rules that we know now. Every country had it's own set of ball games,usually animal bladders.

I have just googled and Englands national game is officially.....CRICKET!!!

Ha!

Football is regarded as Englands national game because of it being played in all schools, especially the state system, which at one point didn't cover other sports for boys.

The working class influence changed this. It may be offically, such as the Queen being head of state, but as far as the majority of people are concerned it is football.

Yes it is really news, and (mildly) important to a very large percentage of the population, because of the imminence of the Euro tournament, and because it's part of a larger narrative about the acceptance of racism in our society.

I can see the point about the phrasing of 'The England [Football] Manager', but as almost everyone knows what is being discussed, it is legitimate to use shorthand for the national sport.

I'm certainly glad it irritates the OP, though, who is "lucky enough not to know any people who actually watch / care about football."