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AIBU?

Am I Being Unreasonable?

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Andre1960 · 10/01/2011 22:18

Am I being unreasonable in thinking that when someone asks whether they are being unreasonable or not, they probably already know that they are, but as they are inclined to act that way anyway they want someone else to say it's okay? Am I being unreasonable in suggesting that if this is not the case, the person asking the question is being a bit lame, and that seeking an answer from someone else is likely to end in disaster for them.

If I want to know whether I'm being unreasonable I try to understand the situation I'm in, what's at stake, what the risks are, what my motives are, what my views are, what other affected people's views are, the effect on me, the effect on others, etc., etc.

After doing these things I think I pretty-much know for sure whether a given course of action would be unreasonable or not. I'm not infallible, but I know I need to put in the work to figure these questions out for myself because I know that I'm accountable for how I act and I want to have recourse to a better justification than 'someone on Mumsnet said it was okay'. I would seriously love to be in a situation where I had badly f*cked-up and I gave this as the excuse to someone who had been badly affected by my mistake. To be able to see the possible range of feelings they might express would be a priceless thing to witness.

I'm writing this post because I've come across the acronym YANBU a few times in posts on this site. I didn't know what it meant, and so used several acronym reference sites to try to find out. I drew a blank. I may not have looked in the right places, but I could only find out what it stood for by looking on: Yes, you guessed it - Mumsnet! I think the need to invent this acronym for this site is wonderfully indicative of the typical nature and level of discussion to be found here!

Of course, not all questions and discussions are purile, naive and absurd - there is a lot of interesting, intelligent and informative commentary. Furthermore, some people when they ask 'Am I being unreasonable' are clearly asking for information or about other people's experiences in order to help them determine for themselves whether they are being unreasonable or not. I don't want to seem to be splitting hairs, but there is a world of different between asking these kinds of questions and 'Am I being unreasonable?'.

For myself, I would always baulk at answering the question 'Am I being unreasonable?' I would know very well that I had almost no chance of being able to correctly determine whether the person asking it was or not. I would certainly never be so presumptuous as to answer such a question directly, nor would I want to take responsibility for doing so, or risk giving the impression by answering it that such a question was anything other than an unreasonable one to ask (although I would always try to do this gently and obliquely and expect the person to figure out from my reluctance what I was telling them).

Maybe I have too many scruples and should just give my opinion and screw the consequences for the person who might act on what I say. After all, we are only talking about their consequences and the consequences for those they are involved with, not mine, so there is no cost to me. However, I think I cannot do that so I don't think I will ever have the need for the acronym YANBU.

Please tell me whether I'm right or wrong in what I say. I already know I'm being reasonable, lol.

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sharbie · 10/01/2011 22:19

pardon?

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AnyFucker · 10/01/2011 22:21

could you just repeat that please

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BluTac · 10/01/2011 22:22

That was a long one!

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aslongassheishappy · 10/01/2011 22:22

you are wrong Smile and must be very bored.

your flaw in this whole thing is that you actualy posted this argument in AIBU durrr no brainer. you ignored all your own bullshit. so YABVU ok.

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Unrulysun · 10/01/2011 22:24

YABU

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Spenguin · 10/01/2011 22:24

I agreed with the first couple of sentences...then I got bored.

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Unrulysun · 10/01/2011 22:25

And YABU again for thinking that ending this essay with 'lol' was a good idea.

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TrillianAstra · 10/01/2011 22:26
Bear
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BaronessBomburst · 10/01/2011 22:30

Can it be summarised for those of us with ADD? I skim read the first paragraph and then lost the plot...... Does it have a MIL in it? And a large dog? Wink

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OutrageousFlavourLikeFreesias · 10/01/2011 22:32

Sorry, are you Yoda or something? Did you just tell us all to search our feelings for what we know already to be true?

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sjm123 · 10/01/2011 22:33

You misspelled peurile :)

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aslongassheishappy · 10/01/2011 22:35

basically people should not post as they know the answer but condradictory times maybe they dont.

she has some smugg shit dogs bollocks what she does and then reaches her answer voila all fine. a bit more bollocks and.....

am i right or wrong (a little uncomfortable not too confident) lol, at the end. awww bless her shes so together. must have just gone through some great therapy or something

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AnyFucker · 10/01/2011 22:37

so did you, sjm Wink

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sjm123 · 10/01/2011 22:38

Ha, so I did. Oops Blush

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AgentZigzag · 10/01/2011 22:39

You seem to lack confidence in being able to give your opinion on questions other people are asking.

They ask 'Am I being unreasonable to think my DH shouldn't wake me up in the middle of the night just for the fun of it'

You can answer 'No, you are not being unreasonable to feel this'

It's quite easy when you get the hang of it.

When you feel comfortable, you may even want to add your own experiences of being woken up in the night.

Or relate friends experiences of their dog waking them up.

Or a family members experience of being humped by a dog at a Christmas party.

The amusement can be endless.

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Atomant · 10/01/2011 22:42

I really dislike the acronym 'lol'....

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AgentZigzag · 10/01/2011 22:47

I think you're being unreasonable not to like 'lol' atomant, it can be quite useful at times.

(see how I did that OP Wink)

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aslongassheishappy · 10/01/2011 22:49

lol @ agentzizag

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COCKadoodledooo · 10/01/2011 22:50

The last one I started was because I genuinely didn't know if I was being unreasonable or not.

And the reponses were equally split.

Helped loads.

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Atomant · 10/01/2011 22:57

I actually did laugh out loud there Agent.

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Andre1960 · 10/01/2011 23:02

Sorry for misspelling puerile.

AgentZigZag: In the situation you describe I could decide for myself whether I considered it unreasonable being woken up in the middle of the night by DH just for the fun of it. I don't know about such a world, but you describe it so I presume you speak with authority and know about this world. I find it difficult to believe in such worlds, but if you tell me they exist I believe you. I suppose in such a world of DH's, I might be a DW who also finds it fun being woken up. It seems possible in such a world of night time fun, but I do not know. Similarly with the humping dog. In my world I think I would object, but I would determine this for myself. In your world you might not object. If you do not, why ask AIBU? Wouldn't you know?

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AgentZigzag · 10/01/2011 23:09

In the posters world andre, they may have been with their emotionally abusive husband for 15 years and lost the sense of who they are, possibly not liking being woken up but thinking they must be being unreasonable because their husband has told them they are so many times.

Or their husbands might be just messing about, and they wondered whether other husbands do similar.

Or they could just be posting because they're lonely and want some kind of connection with other human beings.

All sorts of reasons, but it's not for any one of us to tell anyone else they shouldn't be posting, or where they should be posting, everyone's got a reason for being here.

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Andre1960 · 10/01/2011 23:17

agentZigZag: I agree with everything you say about what might be possible. That is why I would be cautious with my advice.

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tomhardyismydh · 10/01/2011 23:19

so there you go op you did already know you are bu and with a little bit of help just came to realise that...that is why people post in aibu. Biscuit

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AgentZigzag · 10/01/2011 23:20

It's not really for the posters to be cautious with their advice (which is really only opinion), it's the OPs who have to choose what advice they agree with, if any.

If they take it literally as the truth of the matter, then they shouldn't be on the net tbh.

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