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AIBU to be cautious of my new neighbours?

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starsareshining · 31/10/2010 20:02

New neighbours have moved in and I finally plucked up the courage to speak to the husband about a week ago. He seemed nice and normal, but I am always very nervous of these things. I become very anxious and find it very difficult to make conversation with people. So it was quite a big deal for me to talk for a length of time and actually give information about myself.

Anyway, I later found out that he is the cousin of a person I really don't like. His aunt and cousin are really not nice people and have attempted to cause problems for me in the past, depsite the fact that they barely know me. They're the kind of people who feed off the misery of others and actively attempt to cause drama and upset in their lives. They've even attempted to stir up trouble between me and my ex over the fact that they saw my son with my current partner. I think they were hoping for a violent outburst because my partner had the nerve to spend time with my son. My ex's mother was in, at the very least, an emotionally and verbally abusive relationship. This man refused to ever even acknowledge that I was present and would do things such as lie down on the settee if I walked into the room, even when I was heavily pregnant, meaning that I couldn't sit down. They pretended to be her friends her but were secretly contacting him and bitching about her. I really can't describe what vile people they are. I know that a lot of this information seems unnecessary but I want to explain why I can't just allow these people to casually become involved in my life again, as any involvement is likely to cause hassle for me.

I was very, very upset and panicked. My partner told me to calm down but I really do not want these people anywhere near my family. I thought that I'd completely erased them from my life when I no longer had to be in contact with his family or their friends. I did eventually calm down and realise that he may be entirely different to his family. However, as a precaution, I thought that it would be best if I didn't give him any information I thought they could use. Perhaps just chat to him without telling him anything more about myself, to see whether I thought I could trust him. My partner then started telling me that I was prejudiced because I'm treating him differently based on something he cannot change. I suppose that technically, this is a prejudice, but I'm far more concerned about looking out for myself and my son. I'm really quite annoyed that he's so concerned about me doing the 'right' thing (acting as though I don't know he's connected to this family), when cooling it off and taking it slowly wouldn't hurt anybody and would guarantee that I wouldn't get dragged back into a world of shit I had to work quite hard to get away from.

So AIBU to back away from them and expect my partner to support me in this?

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BeerTrixSixSixPotter · 31/10/2010 20:06

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naghoul · 31/10/2010 20:10

You don't need to give anything of yourself to have a perfectly normal relationship with your neighbour. I'm friendly with ours but they don't know anything about my life.

The best tactic would be to continue to be friendly. Smile, wave, say hi etc but they don't need to know anything about you.

I have cousins that I wouldn't know from adam. There's nothing to link you to them. If your neighbour does talk to his cousin it's best that you've been nice and offered these strange people no ammunition.

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starsareshining · 31/10/2010 21:29

Argh, he's definitely in touch with them, they're at his house right now. I am really disappointed. I was hoping this might be an opportunity for me to start making some friends.

But I'm glad that you agree that it's fine to not really give them any details. My partner can be very naive at times.

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RedHeels · 31/10/2010 21:53

Why would you want to give your neighbours any details about yourself at all? My neighbours know absolutely nothing about me and I couldn't care less about what they're up to. I still smile and say hello and have a very general chat with one of them but it's more "oh, you're cleaning the pavement in the rain?", not "I'm 8 months pregnant, have PGP and my foof hurts like hell".
By the way, it's not me cleaning the pavement! Shock

It sounds to me like you feel a little bit lonely where you live. Isn't there any other place you could try to make some friends? Local park, library, etc? Why not try to meet some other mums through here or Netmums (sorry Mumsnet) Blush.

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starsareshining · 31/10/2010 22:17

:D at telling your neighbours about your foof! I am very lonely as I don't have any friends anymore and I'm struggling with a few things at the moment so I don't feel that I'm in a very good position to make friends. I seem to be mentioning this in every post lately. I'm just spreading misery!

I think it's because they're fairly close to my age and seemed really nice and chatty when I met them. They invited me to a housewarming party and obviously, I won't be going because his family will probably be there. He seemed quite keen to talk properly and find out a little bit about us. It's just a disappointment I suppose. My lack of confidence and personal problems have meant that I really, really struggle to make friends with people. My partner was very keen for me to get out and talk to them, perhaps even invite them over and now I just feel that this family have ruined what should have been a nice experience. Oh well. Thanks for reassuring me that I'm not an awful, prejudiced cow :)

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HecateQueenOfWitches · 31/10/2010 23:16

You're under no obligation to give him any information. Chat about the weather or the price of beans! Where does it say that to talk to someone you have to give them your life story, shoe size and number of orgasms per week?

Honestly, don't worry about it.

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starsareshining · 31/10/2010 23:35

I wasn't really choosing between being really matey or speaking, but my partner was telling me that I was wrong to back off from them because of my own prejudices. It is a shame because we did have an enjoyable conversation. I'm not worried that I'd have to give a neighbour my life story, but that it would have been nice to be friendly, but these people can create a situation out of nothing. I'm certain they're all talking about the fact that I'm his neighbour now. As I said before, just seeing my partner spending time with me and my son was enough for them to work with. They sent a text to my ex, called his parents and their mutual friends to talk about the situation as though I was awful and they should come and 'sort me out'. It is utterly ridiculous. I'm worried that doing/saying anything at all could set off another load of rubbish.

Anyway, my original question has now been answered and I feel reassured that I'm doing the right thing :)

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RedHeels · 31/10/2010 23:54

I'm an awful, prejudiced cow Grin in that respect that I don't like people in RL asking me personal questions, it always gets my back up. And then when sometimes I do say a little bit more, I very often regret it as people suddenly think that it gives them a green light to ask impertinent questions.

Good for you you plucked your courage to speak to your neighbour in the first place, even if there won't be any long term friendship. What's important that you did something that you were afraid off, just use it as an exercise and next time you'll be more confident chatting to other people.

Hope you're feeling better with time, at least you have your partner to support you and friends will come along the way.

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musicmadness · 01/11/2010 01:56

You don't have to give any personal information away but I don't think you should write off a friendship with your new neighbour just because of his cousin. I'm not saying you have to be friends with them, but I think you should treat the neighbours like they are not connected to the cousin at all. I wouldn't tell new people anything personal about myself for quite a long time anyway so I can't see you handing over any "ammunition" so to speak.

I can't stand a friends sister (and the feeling is definitely mutual!) so me and my friend don't meet up when the sister is around. We have an arrangement where I don't bitch about her sister to her and she doesn't let her sister bitch about me when she is around. No conflict of interest and I'm really glad I got to know her anyway because I would have missed out on a really good friendship if I hadn't.

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Chil1234 · 01/11/2010 06:17

Listen to your partner. You are wrong to back off from the neighbour just because you don't like his connections. Take him on face value. If you do happen to come up in conversation and it's negative then wouldn't it be better if he can say 'starsareshining seems very nice to me'? If you blank him, he'll think they have a valid point. As everyone says, don't bear your soul or give out personal information... just be civil, pleasant and otherwise keep yourself to yourself.

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Chil1234 · 01/11/2010 06:17

bare your soul...

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emptyshell · 01/11/2010 07:21

Took ours about 6 months before some of them would say hello to us. We rent... and I think they were scared of a potential privately rented horror case landing in their quiet street. In the end they've been fantastic and it's definitely worth keeping it the friendly side of civil in case you go away and a pipe bursts or whatever - you want someone to give a damn enough to let you know your ceiling's hanging down from the rafters (happened to a relative of mine) or whatever!

I might disagree with some of what ours do - but generally if you start digging battle lines in, then little things that you'd previously let roll by, like bins being left out, start to rankle and that's how you end up on these fly on the wall neighbours from hell documentaries over time fighting over someone's hedge being 2 mm over the max size.

You don't have to tell them your life story but even keeping it to a "morning, cold today isn't it" as you leave the house makes life a heck of a lot more pleasant for you, and them, to live there.

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starsareshining · 01/11/2010 14:30

When I say back off, I don't mean that I'll start ignoring them in the street. Just that he was very keen to talk and kept me talking for about fifteen minutes the first time I met him. I'll obviously still greet him and be polite, but he'll probably be expecting another proper conversation. He's already invited me to a party!

It isn't that I don't trust/like him, but that I think his family will take anything he says, twist it and then gossip about it for fun.

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