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AIBU?

to think the council should move my sister now

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ray81 · 18/10/2010 09:46

My sister lives in a third floor flat. She has neighbours that are always arguing and fighting. The other week there was a big argument and the lad beat his girlfriend up, the police got involved and she was asked to be a witness by the lad and she said no because she knew that he had beat her up.

She has just been told by another neighbour that a few nights ago the lad got realy drunk and she had to stop him putting a petrol bomb through her letter box. FFS i cant beleive there are people like this out there.

I have told her to go to the police and the council and ask them to move her, she suffers with panic attacks anyway and is on AD because she is scared of dying.
AIBU to think the council should move her as a matter of urgency because this lad clearly has a screw lose and could do anything and next time there might not be someone there to stop him

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EleanorHauntedHandbasket · 18/10/2010 09:50

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Amberredsky · 18/10/2010 09:50

No they shouldn't move her, the police should lock the nutter away! Please make her go to the police or call them yourself if she won't, attempted arson is very serious!

discobeaver · 18/10/2010 09:51

I don't know how you go about proving she is in danger though. Unless she goes to the police and says he has threatened to hurt her or something?

Sounds like she should be moved but it's the practicalities of actually getting it sorted out.

Don't you wish violent horrible people like that could just step inder a bus or something, give everyone a break.

ray81 · 18/10/2010 09:54

No she hasnt got a sense of entitlement she was quite happy to stay where she was but this has realy scared her.
she is going to go to the council today, she was going to ask for him to be moved but then realised that if he has got a screw loose he will know where she lives and could come back without a problem to do whatever he wanted.

she is very scared for herself and her children lives. Forgot to mention that she has 3 children under 6.

I cant help thinking that they wont move her though and then what does she do?

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ray81 · 18/10/2010 09:55

she is going to go to the police aswell today i have told her to do so.

I think he should be locked away too.

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curlymama · 18/10/2010 09:58

If he does something illegal, which it sounds like he has done, then the police should deal with it.

Private renters or owners can't just up and move if there is a problem with the neighbours, no matter how serious, so I don't see why that should be any different for council tennants.

Serendippy · 18/10/2010 10:02

YABU to think the council should move her. If she has not gone to the police, YABVU as nobody will know there is a problem for her specifically. I hope that when she does go to the police the problem gets sorted.

ray81 · 18/10/2010 10:13

She has just found out this morning that this has happened and is so scared to go home, she hasnt had a chance to do anything yet but will def be going to police and council, i am going with her in a minute.

Im sure the police will arrest him and caution him but what are the chances of him being kept in prison. What she is worried about is that he will then know why he has been arrested and seek revenge iykwim. If he was prepared to petrol bomb her house because she wouldnt be a witness for him what will he do if she actualy gets him arrested.

She is speaking to my mum and dad to see if she can stay with them for a while, it will be cramped but its worth it if it stops something happening to her and the kids.

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GreenStinkingStumpSleeves · 18/10/2010 10:18

I think "sense of entitlement" is a bit of a cheap shot

if she is in council housing and she and her children are unsafe or being harassed, then she should be moved IMO

it's irrelevant that people not in social housing would find it more difficult to move

the two are different in many respects - there are plenty of downsides to social housing - this should be one of the advantages

Tortington · 18/10/2010 10:20

no the council should move him, anto social behaviour should be taken very seriously. there will be variosu measures in place. she should always report such incidents to the police, even if the police cannot do anything about them, the incidents will be recorded and can be used as evidence later in court.

GreenStinkingStumpSleeves · 18/10/2010 10:21

but if they move him he will know why, and he will know where she lives

Tortington · 18/10/2010 10:22

if she wants to help the oving process herself, she shoudllook into mutual exchanges.

Tortington · 18/10/2010 10:22

he should be evicted for anti social behaviour anyway. - i could be any number of neighbours that report these incidents.

Tortington · 18/10/2010 10:24

i agree that if it got to court and they ask her to be a witness then yes, they should move her, but its unlikley to come to that.

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MinkyBorage · 18/10/2010 10:54

EleanorHauntedHandBasket, wtf are you talking about. You are totally out of line. Pathetic. Have some bloody compassion woman.

AdoraBelleDearhart · 18/10/2010 11:03

In my experience she will not be moved. We had a alcholic and drug addict neighbour living next door to use. He put a petrol soaked rag through my letter box and dumped a lit match through. (we knew it was him as we had cctv)

thank god it was in the afternoon not at night as i smelt it and manged to put it out.

The Police were called and they arrested him. the council would not move us and they said that there was nothing we could do.

We have since moved and he was evicted about 2 years afer we moved.

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GypsyMoth · 18/10/2010 11:39

exactly Eleanor!! the council would not be dealing with the problem!! it would be passed on to next people

and fwiw.....a neighbour tittle tattling saying 'i saw this that or other' is not hard evidence is it??

what is that neighbours agenda? did he attempt the firebomb for certain? nobody knows. did the neighbour who caught him keep the evidence and report this immediately??

Glitterknickaz · 18/10/2010 11:55

As an immediate measure have her letterbox boarded up and put up a wall mounted thing for her mail.

Doesn't solve the long term issue but at least it reduces that danger.

GypsyMoth · 18/10/2010 11:56

and moved to WHERE??? exactly?

tums · 18/10/2010 12:24

Typical Eleanor

With some people, the very mention of 'council' property results in bitchy remarks.

OP - YANBU

PaulineMole · 18/10/2010 12:30

Police will write to the local council supporting rehousing if an individual is at risk of being targeted. The council will need this recommendation before considering rehousing.

I have often been surprised at how people's perception of risk seems to change when they are offered a flat on a sick estate miles across town though.

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