Watch Panorama now!

[BarmyArmy]

Should be interesting...

[JaxTellersOldLady]

I am watching it!

[Casserole]

Im finding Dispatches more interesting actually!

[MollieO]

Am watching. Don't know the story though.

[BarmyArmy]

It's about the Family Courts and Social Services - children being taken into care from parents etc etc.

[Galena]

Dispatches is very interesting. What is Panorama about?

[MollieO]

Just found summary of court case here.

[BarmyArmy]

Parents not being allowed to have their children on their own - having to have PILs standing over them the whole time...policing them.

[DinahRod]

Am watching Dispatches like Casserole too, 'When Cousins Marry', focusing on families in the UK.

[tethersend]

This will be a precursor to announcing cuts in SS. They did it with education, too.

[sloanypony]

I think I've been on Mumsnet too long - there was just a clip of her saying how it was awful to be accused of abusing her child, then a shot of her SPOON FEEDING HIM.



Sorry but just recalling some of the BLW debates

On a serious note, its very upsetting some of this stuff isn't it...

[BarmyArmy]

I remain unconvinced that SS, in their present form (skill levels, pay structure, ethos etc) serve any useful purpose at all.

[MiladyDeSummer]

The police expert was wrong about the number of fractures and the frequency of the injuries months after the report was made?

[tethersend]

BA, I can't do this debate with you now... I have just been told that my parents were in a head on crash. They have only broken bones but crash was very serious and I am very upset- shouldn't be posting really. You know how I feel about this issue and we've argued it to the death in the past. If you had seen what some parents do to their children, you may not be so quick to dismiss the work SS do.

I hope you have a good debate about the issue but am bowing out for now.

[sloanypony]

Crap isn't it.

[MiladyDeSummer]

Very sorry to hear that tethers I wish you all well.

I shouldn't be engaging in this either really but I'm glad there seems to be a bit more transparency around the family courts now.

Safeguarding is crucial but the lack of accountability and issue of medical evidence scares me witless.

[MollieO]

I'm shocked that there is more transparency in criminal courts than in family courts. Why should experts be able to hide behind anonimity? Thankfully this case and the subsequent Act of Parliament has put an end to this.

[skyeplusbump]

i have hypermobility...scares the shite out of me that dd may have it,let alone what would happen if she hurt herself because of it.

aggree that ss should investigate,but surely sometimes its just obvious the child is happy in their home,and not frightened of their parents.

or am i being terribly naive?

[autodidact]

Tethers- I really hope your parents will be ok soon. That sounds like a terrible shock.

[Casserole]

Tethers - How awful. Hope you get to see them soon and you all recover from the shock, and them from their injuries.

Madmilitary - out of interest, and this is a genuine question, if you were starting from scratch to put together some sort of function that dealt with social care; what would it look like? Where do you think it's gone wrong?

[tethersend]

Thanks. Sorry to derail your thread, BA.

[sterrryerryoh]

Social Services may not always get things right, but to say that they ?serve no useful purpose? is incredibly short-sighted and wholly inaccurate

[OneTwoBuckleMyShoe]

Have replied in Telly Addicts.

We know the parents and the heartache involved in their case.

Transparency in these cases can only be a good thing, if you are prepared to play that important role in a child's future then you must be accountable to that.

[Silver1]

It's funny how many on here make crass assumptions about ALL social workers, based on biased media reporting of birth family engagements with a few social workers.

It is funny how many people think social workers have the time and energy to just make this stuff up, when so many children out there genuinely need their help.

It is funny how no one takes into account these social workers were acting on what was in front of them, and what medical advisors were telling them. It is funny that child had a broken leg, no sign of osteoporosis and his parents didn't know how it happened. Not a three year old but a three month old.

It stops being funny when social workers and family courts intervene, and free the child you eventually adopt from the people who tortured and abuse him, so that you can pick up the pieces and parent the scared and traumatized toddler, and try and rebuild his life, whilst parenting forums make you and the SWs out to be child snatchers-and the family courts who gave the birth family opportunity after opportunity and provision for support, that family court is slap dash and lackadaisical, when the adoption order judge is the same judge who oversaw most of the child protection hearings of your son, awards him a teddy bear with a tear in his eye and wishes him well- that would be when all of this stops being funny.

[sterrryerryoh]

Beautifully written and poignant, Silver1

[lal123]

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