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Any dairy free/soya free bakers?

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Dorisday13 Sat 04-May-13 15:12:30

What's the best alternative for baking? Oat milk? Rice milk? I'm trying to make savory muffins :-) x

nextphase Sat 04-May-13 19:51:43

We did Oatly, and vitalite. The Oat milk I could live with, the butter substitutes weren't brill (but then I'm a Butter girl, even marg is only good in chocolate cake!) Cakes with Oil in place of fat (and muffins) were better than butter substitutes.

Dorisday13 Sun 05-May-13 09:14:07

Cool thanks, do you know if there is a conversion melted butter to oil for a recipe? X

Maz007 Sun 05-May-13 09:41:53

M&S dairy free marg is the best tasting I've found - tend to use it in all my baking. Oatly works well for savoury recipes, have also used soya and Kara (coconut) - all fine. Happy baking!

Maz007 Sun 05-May-13 09:43:31

Sorry, just saw 'soya free' in thread title - more coffee needed. I'd avoid rice milk as it's just too watery. We are soya and dairy free here too - totally doable. Good luck!

nextphase Sun 05-May-13 09:47:56

I wouldn't try to convert, but find a recipie that has been designed for oil, e.g. chocolate cake or muffins enjoy!

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Sun 05-May-13 10:39:51

Oatly CREAM and Block Stork for baking. I find the Oatly 'milk' too runny.

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Sun 05-May-13 10:40:44

Will have a read of those recipes!

Dorisday13 Sun 05-May-13 12:27:23

Thanks! I've just bought some oatley cream so I'll give that a go x :-)

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Sun 05-May-13 16:57:41

I make a mean white sauce with Block stork, flour and Oatly cream. Add a bit of dill and some fish, and you have a yummy dairy, soy free fish pie. Just make the mash with Vitalite or block Stork!

It's DS3's favourite dinner.

harverina Tue 07-May-13 09:37:30

Couthy that sounds amazing -I love white sauce! Can you expand a little on what you do - I am hopeless in the kitchen!! grin

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 14:35:43

Melt about a heaped dessert spoon's worth of block Stork in a pan. Then mix in plain flour until it goes all lumpy and looks horrid. (Bear with me...!) Let that cook for a minute or so.

Then add a small bit of the Oatly cream and mix in thoroughly. Keep adding the Oatly cream a but at a time, whisking constantly so that each time you add a bit more, it is well mixed in before you add the next bit. (I don't use a whisk, I use a fork, I find you get less lumps and a smoother sauce! blush ).

When it looks about the right consistency of white sauce, you can then use it in tons of other recipes.

Dairy & soy free Lasagne becomes a possibility, and dairy & soy free macaroni cheese - for that, once the sauce is at the right thickness, coating the back of a spoon rather than running off it, you can take it off the heat and add some grated soy free cheezly to it. Pour over macaroni, hey presto!

Also, by adding a teaspoon of dill to the pan of plain sauce, you can make it into a lovely sauce for fish pie, or just to go over fish.

grin

Would you believe I failed Home Ec?! My teacher would be so proud of me...wink

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 14:36:53

Soy free cheezly can usually be bought in Holland & Barrat.

claraschu Tue 07-May-13 14:41:35

I have never actually tried it, but my vegan friend uses cocoanut oil instead of butter when baking. It is delicious and healthy.

Dorisday13 Tue 07-May-13 15:01:10

Ummm lentil lasagne for tea I think :-)

babybarrister Tue 07-May-13 21:19:08

we use oatly cream a lot as well - enjoy- everything is doable - the only thing that has stumped me is meringue - DS egg free grin

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 21:53:41

Wow. I'm not too sure on egg free meringue!

I could ask a couple if my friends who have egg-free DC's. I can't see how it would be do-able, mind you. confused

<<Goes off to ponder and wrack people's brains...>>

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 21:55:59

Another dairy, soy free sauce for stuff is to start off the same, with the melted block Stork and flour mixture, and instead of adding Oatly cream, add stock instead.

I make my casseroles like that!

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 21:58:56

Also, when done with fish stock, it can make a nice sauce for fish. I use that with tuna and sweetcorn pasta. My older DC's now prefer their tuna pasta like that rather than with mayo.

Chicken risotto is another great standby dairy & soy free meal - chicken, arborio rice, chopped peppers frozen if you want a really speedy meal, and chicken stock.

The m&s dairy free Margarine is the best I've found to bake with. KarA coconut milk and almond milk are also good for cooking. Coconut oil is pretty good stuff too.

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 22:02:23

Sometimes I dream of meeting my old Home Ec teacher and just pointing at her and going "HA! I CAN cook!!!" grin

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Tue 07-May-13 22:04:19

Ah. Almond milk is out in DS3's case as he is anaphylactic to almonds and all bloody nuts. And he hates coconut milk. Which is rather irritating!

I find that in some cakes, the M&S dairy free spread and Vitalite make the end product too 'oily'. I've never had that issue with block Stork.

Dorisday13 Wed 08-May-13 08:25:21

I tried to make a Yorkshire pudding with almond milk once, didn't taste good, soya milk was good but now that's out too, next to try oat milk

harverina Wed 08-May-13 08:45:11

Thanks couthy - I will be trying out your sauce at the weekend grin I will buy fish and make the sauce with dill.

Lasagne is very appealing but I worry that the cheese would ruin it?

harverina Wed 08-May-13 08:46:51

I didn't even realise we could use block stork! Dd is milk egg and nut free.

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