If you want a no deal brexit-what does no deal mean to you?

[RoarkesMagicCoats]

Following on from another thread asking if you voted leave then do you want no deal? Plenty of posters do want no deal but I'm wondering what they understand no deal to actually mean for the UK? What does a no deal look like both immediately and a few months, then years down the line? How would it pan out? How would business, health, and education benefit (if you think they will)?

Please don't turn this into a Leavers vs remainers thread. I'm just interested in the questions I've asked regarding what no deal actually means for the Uk.

Anyone?

I think you will find most Leavers have given up answering questions on here. Whatever they say is ripped to shreds by some of the more aggressive remainers, they are called stupid, racist, xenophobic etc and after three years of it, have had enough.

What @SilverySurfer has said.

This is very common now. We won’t tell you our reasons because you’ll disagree with us.
Strange people, these leavers. They don’t do dissent very well. That much is clear.

No one actually wants no deal. But if the EU refuse to consider a deal which is good for us as well as them, we'll have to go empty handed and take our chances!

Ok so you missed the last paragraph of my OP then. If you don't want to answer the question then why post unless it's to have a dig?

TheBigBallOfOil

So your going to pretend that it doesn't happen?

Erm, no. Just making an observation on how those in favour of leave find excuses to avoid having to explain themselves.
(It’s nothing to do with them having nothing sensible or coherent to say. Course not. Perish the thought.)

TheBigBallOfOil
Erm, no.

Actually yes, or you wouldn't have posted

Just making an observation on how those in favour of leave find excuses to avoid having to explain themselves.
(It’s nothing to do with them having nothing sensible or coherent to say. Course not. Perish the thought.)

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re getting at, sorry.
That old coherence thing again ... so hard.

TheBigBallOfOil

That old coherence thing again ... so hard.

and with that the thread is yours. Enjoy.

Leavers should just be honest. It’s not about reason, it’s an emotional thing. That’s why they get so damn cranky when challenged.

Well so far no one has even attempted to answer my OP

We haven't got a crystal ball, OP. No one knows. We're walking into the unknown.

No one actually wants no deal
Except the 21 Leavers on the other thread said that was their preference if faced with No Deal or No Brexit.
It's not unreasonable to ask them in practical terms how they see it panning out in the short/long term with best case/worst case scenarios.

And I say that hoping, praying and willing any no dealer to say anything remotely positive/optimistic as I am coming back to the UK from Germany next month and so far all I read on here is...
Fill your cupboard/start prepping because food shortages
Try and get any prescriptions/meds now because meds shortages
Like the Kaiser Chiefs we predict a riot
alongside
It will all be fine, look at the drama around the millenium bug (despite many explaining the work that went into preventing problems)

I would still be less worried and trying to think positively if it wasn't for the Operation Yellowhammer leak (travel bans would mean I cannot even run back to Germany if desperate) and the announcement of What to do in a No Deal Brexit leaflet announcement, which sounds apocalyptic.

So anything positive, anything at all, would massively cheer me up.
Thanks in advance
(am returning because home ed is illegal in Germany and DS has sensory/anxiety/asd issues leading to kindergarten refusal. The timing is...not great)

I think leavers want the middle classes to suffer as much as working classes have under austerity. No deal will do that.

This is a really good question and something I've wondered about since the referendum result. What kind of society do leavers and in particular no dealers want when we leave ? It's a fairly pertinent question considering the serious ramifications of leaving and one that leavers should be engaging in. It's been discussed only in generalisations like taking back control of things rather than specific meaningful things. Leavers need to read some of the stuff written by the likes of people like dominic raab, kwasei kwarteng etc and that will give them a taste of what is to come as they are now at the helm. Funnily enough it's not going to be more investment in public services despite what boris promises.

RoarkesMagicCoats
Ok so you missed the last paragraph of my OP then. If you don't want to answer the question then why post unless it's to have a dig?

I felt sorry for you that no-one had replied.

Ok, I'll play the game....

Voted remain but now want a no deal brexit. The week after we crash out a further vote on Scottish independence will be announced (authorised by Bojo the Clown or not), Scotland will vote for independence, re-join the EU, offer asylum to suitable UK folks and live the socialist, renewable energy powered, nuclear "deterrant"-free dream. The religious schools here will be replaced with steiner schools and we will all live happily ever after.

To be clear, im not joking.

I feel bad no one has answered too, as I would genuinely like to know what people are thinking without the usual pile-on. If we could understand then perhaps we could get to a place where a constructive conversation could happen. Slinging on both sides isn't helping anyone.

And what about the rest of the UK @AyeToIndy? What do you anticipate will happen in England, Wales and Northern Ireland?

Well. Presumably its a failure of imagination or a silent acknowledgement that, as most of us know, they too have no idea whatsoever what no deal will mean. But Farage and Boris know and are also sensibly keeping it to themselves. Will be watching BJ slithering in Wales today where its slowly penetrating that they've voted to make their already precarious economy even worse. Bet they love him.

@RoarkesMagicCoats for England and Wales i genuinely believe it will be ok in the long run but in the short term there will be recession at best and at worst a lot of civil unrest, a lot of people in poverty, breakdown in public cervice. Its obviously really hard to say where on the scale it will fall.

Im genuinely very concerned about NI. I dont really remember it being discussed much in the run up to the vote and i think that was very short sighted of the remain camp not to bring it up more. I fail to see how its going to pan out without rekindling the flames of the troubles. I just dont see this ending without bloodshed there

AyeToIndy I'm with you.

I'm curious to see what other people who want a no deal want and why. Genuinely, without attack.

RoarkesMagicCoats what about the rest of the UK? Why is that Scotland's issue? The rest of the UK hasn't given a shit about the fact Scotland voted to remain and that the last Indy ref was thrown by lies and promises which haven't materialised.

Expecting Scots to give a shit now is a bit rich.