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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097019/New-breed-piranha-women-preying-rich-men-pregnant.html

Gah this made me so angry. The poor "rich" men who are so taken by these harlots they completely forget they also hold the key to looking after their own contraception.
The poor men are lured into bed, unprotected.

So, So, angry.

(I read feminism a lot, and have learned A LOT but I may have only posted one or two times. Hi!)

"£4000 a month is not untypical in these cases" ... Hmmm, yes, I know loads of single mums receiving four grand a month from their exes... Oh no wait a minute, I actually don't.

What fucking bollocks.

The Daily Fail really do need to decide whether lone mothers are either a) all benefit scroungers having babies to get free council houses or b) all "piranhas" exploiting the poor menz for gazillions of squids a week. I really don't see how they can be both at the same time.

Awful article, I agree. But this made me laugh:

"Middle-aged men who are boring, with a receding hairline, bulging waist line and of course, a fat wallet, are approached by younger, beautiful women.
They get suckered in and don’t see it coming," said Mrs Benussi.

...umm, that's her clients she's talking about!

What a load of crap. More demonising of women.
Yes, those poor defenseless men being tricked into unprotected sex, because as we all know, men are not responsible for their own actions whatsoever. They are simply at the mercy of evil, manipulative women. Poor things.

Bollocks!

Saw the headline (yes, I scan the DM most days,) and couldn't be arsed to click the article because I could tell in advance what was in it. A non-story. It's quite interesting to just scan all the DM headlines on line and see the "picture" it builds up cumulatively. Hint - women are shitbags, dontchaknow.

Of course the article is misogynistic and silly, this is the Daily Fail. I expect nothing less of them.

My favourite bit - these women are exploiting a 'legal loophole' to gain financial support by having a baby. Isn't it outrageous that men are required by law to provide for their children? What next? Will these poor men be forced into changing nappies, or, God forbid, doing housework? What has the world come to?

Isn't it amazing that the Daily Fail Wail has a predominantly female readership? Or is it? Is there something intrinsically masochistic about some women that makes them want to wallow in this sh*t? Lack of self-esteem maybe?

I read the Daily Mail on a daily basis. I also read the Guardian and the Independent at the same time (well not at exactly the same time because that would be impossible, but you get the gist).

It pays to be aware of what you're up against IMO. It's also truly fascinating to see the different spin put on the same story depending on the prevailing ethos.

I sincerely hope that many of the DM's readers are like me, rather than believing what they read without question. MN is predominantly left-wing for example but directs an awful lot of links to the DM site.

My elderly father reads the Daily Heil so I have a look when I go to see him for the same reason you do, Sunshine. The sheer unabashed poisonousness amazes me, but what really upsets me is that the lies and half-truths clearly upset and worry my dad. I have tried to explain that he shouldn't believe most of what he reads but he's almost 90 and though perfectly compos mentis I think his powers of discrimination aren't what they used to be. And the Heil is so insidiously clever at scaremongering and then coming up with "solutions" for these imaginary situations.

So you don't believe that a small proportion of women deliberately get pregnant? That they don't 'forget' to take the pill.

Aaarghagain- Surely a man who does not wish to have the responsibility of fatherhood, should take charge of his own fertility, no ?

Sadly, my mum (almost 80) and many of her friends use phrases like 'she got herself pregnant' to describe single mothers in general and how their situation came about. When pressed to explain exactly how this could happen, they come out with tripe like this article and conveniently forget the facts of life.

There is no guarantee that stopping the pill will result in pregnancy. Sometimes it takes a few cycles to regain fertility.

Wallowing in the sh^t? That is how many women of my mother's generation were raised to see themselves imo. Unworthy of respect, second class citizens -- and they were raised to think of men as weaklings who were nevertheless somehow ordained to rule the world. Neither sex got a fair shake back then.

Oh God, I wish I lived in a world where having a baby or two was an easy option.

Yes I agree...but what if he was led to believe that she was using contraception? Should he always wear condoms regardless? It would certainly make his DW or DP feel that he didn't trust her, which can't be healthy surely.

I think it was a non-article in the Mail, and was biased against women, but even so, maybe for a proportion of those women it was true.

Goodness knows how those poor old men got so rich if they are incapable of working out how to use a condom.

Aaaargh --

Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh.

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"should he always use condoms, regardless"

Yes. It is called being a grown up.

What are you on about Aaaaarrgghh? If a man does not wish to father a child, he should either wear a condom every time he has sex or have a vasectomy. It really is that simple. This may come as a surprise to you but guess what - many couples in long term relationships, even married couples use condoms or one of the partners is sterilised. That certainly doesn't mean one doesn't trust the other. On the contrary, it means they are being open and honest with each other about their fertility choices. Gee, who'da thunk it?

(What TheCrackFox said, Aaaargh.)

So a women has been married for 10 years to a man who doesn't want children, and is on the pill/coil fitted etc, wouldn't be at all offended by the fact that he always wears condoms despite the fact that he knows she is on the pill?

Being a grown up means trusting the ones we love surely?

If he doesn't want children he should have a vasectomy. Plenty of men have made that choice. It is free on the NHS.

#What are you on about Aaaaarrgghh? If a man does not wish to father a child, he should either wear a condom every time he has sex or have a vasectomy.

But what if his DP/DW has TOLD him that contraception is sorted? I'm really not trying to be obtuse here. Should he STILL wear condoms?

We are not talking about a situation where there are DPs married for ten years. We are talking about piranhas, man-eating women luring innocent men into fatherhood.

And in any case, a man who doesn't want children should surely be thinking of a vasectomy and not putting his wife through all the bother of the coil, flooding her system with artificial hormones for ten+ years, etc.