When is it ok for a teacher to tell a child to bugger off?

(62 Posts)
BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:31:28

When is it ok for a teacher to tell a child to bugger off?

shellyf Sun 18-Nov-12 17:50:42

Only in their head.Unacceptable to say out loud.

TheNebulousBoojum Sun 18-Nov-12 17:52:17

Dunno why, but with my Aspie DS, the PE teachers were the last hold outs and the slowest learners when it came to reasonable accommodation.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:53:39

My friend has her ds at the same school and she is very worried about it. I am glad I haven't put my ds at that school.

I just wanted to know from the teachers out there how frequent is it?

MmeLindor Sun 18-Nov-12 17:56:11

Totally unacceptable. I'd be up at the school for that.

TheNebulousBoojum Sun 18-Nov-12 18:01:32

It isn't frequent. Not in primary or secondary.

Felicitywascold Sun 18-Nov-12 18:11:28

No, not frequent. Not at all.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:24:55

It did happen at a highly regarded school in front of other teachers!
How come that the teacher felt comfortable to say and behave so without any shame?

TheNebulousBoojum Sun 18-Nov-12 18:28:04

So, the child was running as part of an organised activity and then the situation developed to the point where a teacher told them to bugger off.
Would you like to fill in the gaps please?

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:31:54

He told the boy to bugger of to the lower set as he was not coping in the set where he was at. Otherwise it is exactly as you have gathered.

Greensleeves Sun 18-Nov-12 18:31:59

It's disgusting behaviour. I would be making a proper complaint.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:34:04

it's supposed to be off not of. Sorry I am having a problem with this expression angry

LynetteScavo Sun 18-Nov-12 18:35:24

I'd cry if someone told me to bugger off to a lower set because I wasn't coping, too.

The context it was used in seems particularly harsh.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:36:16

I don't think she could make a complaint as it wasn't her ds.

Private or state? Gobsmacked if it happened in a state school in front of others. Very very unusual. Sure teacher wasn't massively provokes and just lost it?( though still totally unacceptable).

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:43:34

Her ds is in the Rugby team , she is worried even to talk about because she is concerned the PE teachers would hold it against her ds and kick him out of the team.
The school is not very sporty as they do select according to academic potential only. It is puzzling why they expect them to be sportsmen

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:44:27

state

TheNebulousBoojum Sun 18-Nov-12 18:44:51

My guess would be private.

TheNebulousBoojum Sun 18-Nov-12 18:45:46

blush cross-post
Then there will be a discipline policy to refer to, and there will be a complaints procedure to use.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:46:35

Definitely state

Greensleeves Sun 18-Nov-12 18:48:00

Of course she can complain if her child witnessed the incident.

She should tell the boy's parents as well.

Is it a grammar school?

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:50:24

He was comfortable in acting this way in front of his colleagues so I guess it’s a common practice at the school.

MikeOxard Sun 18-Nov-12 18:52:16

I wouldn't be a teacher for all the money in the world, but if I was, all the kids would be told to bugger off. You have heard this through the child of a friend of a friend or some such chinese whispers scenario, things may not be as they seem to you. But if they were, I really think a 12 year old should not be so upset by 'bugger off' that they cry. Surely that hrase is not that upsettingly offensive? Most 12 year olds are using swearier language than that themselves, let alone hearing it. (Not saying it was a great teaching decision or anything, just that the whole scenario wouldn't concern me).

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:52:30

yes Greensleeves.
I am not sure re the rules on Mumsnet how much I could say

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 18:54:30

Thanks Mike, I am glad the world is not full of people like you. or is it?

PandaNot Sun 18-Nov-12 18:56:10

In that context it sounds like the child is upset by being told he's not good enough for that PE set, not that he's upset by the language used. Not appropriate language though from a teacher and if I was observing that lesson I would report it to senior management.

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