What can I do to help? (Acne related and v.v. bizarre.)(31 Posts)
I have a young girl of 23 who works for me. She has bad acne. She is Philippino. I have just found out this morning that she has sent an amount of money which is equivalent to ONE THIRD of her monthly salary back home for some 'herbal oil' treatment that she believes will cure her.
You see it's not actually acne she has - Oh no. She has had a black magic spell put on her by a boy who fell in love with her a few years ago, and she did not reciprocate so this is her punishment, sent from him.
Her previous employer took her to a Dermatologist who prescribed antibiotics which 'made her feel sick' and she only took one month's course, although by the sounds of it there was a bit of a temporary improvement. I know that for acne ABs to be effective you need to wait 3 months or even longer to see an improvement sometimes.
I was considering approaching her about her skin as she is a lovely looking girl and I knew it must be getting her down, but I didn't want to seem rude by pre-empting it. However, now she has brought the subject up, how can I help her?
I think she is buying rubbish 'irritant' stuff like Clearasil as well, which will inflame it and make it worse.
She is reluctant to go down the AB route again as she doesn't believe they will help. I'm afraid to say my first reaction was to go and burst out laughing when she told me about the curse, and she looked a bit wounded and indignant when I suggested that she might have wasted an awful lot of money on this 'cure'.
What is likely to be in this 'potion' from the Philippines and can we recreate it here, for a fraction of the price and without the Voodoo?
Castor Oil? Tea tree? Colloidal silver? Anything?
I need to tread carefully - I don't want to hurt her feelings or make her feel foolish.
Sorry, if I came across sharply, tone is so difficult to express in text.
antibiotics will work on a black magic curse but yes, you need a few months to get results. Roaccutane is serious stuff which should be last resort after different a/bs etc
if you want topical things - the Murad acne system is bloody brilliant. face wash, some kind of gel lotion, oil free moisturiser and a spot cream comes all in one package and they've almost always got a special offer on the whole kit (small sizes admittedly) - you can also try the discount code SHESAID or SHESAIDBEAUTY at checkout, might still work (online store)
It is not totally unsolicited msrisotto she brought the topic up; I never would normally but as I am responsible for making sure she has access to healthcare where we live (in the Middle East) I just wanted her to know that ABs were available for acne (wasn't sure whether she was even aware of that) and I would be happy to take her along to get some (if that was what she wanted) and pay if they were not available through state healthcare.
I asked her what she did last weekend when she was off and she said 'Oh I didn't really go out - I needed to save my money for treatment for this' and pointed to her skin.
Only after I asked her what she meant did she say 'This is not normal acne, it's a black magic curse.' My immediate reaction was one of incredulity, and yes, you do sometimes laugh when you hear something you find incredulous.
I hate to think of her working hard just to get ripped off, so I said 'Wow, that's an awful lot of your money to be spending, but you shouldn't hold your hopes up too high. It might be better to go to the doctor as well. If you like I can ask some 'friends' (meaning you lot) if they can help with some ideas that are not so expensive. I didn't go on about the black magic thing or try to belittle her - I thought I made that clear.
Yesterday she asked me if I would buy her some soap called 'Acne Soap'. It looked rubbish to me, but I said yes of course, if she wanted to try, but she should not be surprised if it was very drying or made her fee feel worse, and that it was completely ok to just throw it away if it was no good.
Yes but not specially in this field.
I'm currently taking Roaccutane but I see an excellent Consultant Dermatologist and only take 10mg per day (approx 1/4 of the usual daily dose). Are you a HCP mrsrisotto?
fellatio I tried benzyl peroxide but found it far too harsh on my skin and actually made the acne worse. I'd take your employee to proper Dermatologist as you could spend a fortune on products with no benefit. You are so kind to want to help her!
I have had it on forehead and around the hairline, hard little bumps that stay there and whiteheads.
I had one session of laser resurfacing combined with glycolic peel, couple weeks later by another peel and getting another one on Saturday. I am also using dalicin-t antibiotic.
A week after the first session my skin was amazing and still is, I may not bother getting anymore peels after my next scheduled one.
Unfortunately this stuff is not cheap, £125 first session, £75 subsequent.
Another tip for the hairline ones is to change your shampoo, I used to use Kerastase now use my husbands head and shoulders! (still use Kerastase conditioner though)
Maybe it has been refined, lower doses etc over recent years, I dunno but I'd be very reluctant to do it myself.
Liver failure, heart problems, kidney dysfunction, depression, suicide, birth defects, crohns disease. Those are some of the more life threatening ones.
Google 'Accutane ruined my life' for testimonials
yikes, what kind of consequences mrsrisotto?
I've had that sort of bad angry painful acne. And I'm from that part of the world too - not the Philippines but nearish. Do you live out there too?
The only thing that worked for me was roaccutane. Lots of side effects listed but didn't really affect me. It cleared it up v quickly and I had to take two cycles. Same thing worked for my little brother too. We had been on ABs, topical creams, clearisils to no avail.
Don't think the pill will be prescribed over there if not married!!
Roaccutane can have devastating consequences, I would only consider it if I was literally thinking of taking my own life as an alternative.
I hope you have a good relationship with this girl OP because I wouldn't appreciate my colleagues giving me unsolicited advice, particularly when you've just laughed at her beliefs.
Two friends of mine had similar acne to what you describe with this girl. Really bad, red and angry, so much so that they didn't want to go out. After trying antibiotics, the pill and topical things they were prescribed Roaccutane which literally completely sorted the problem.
I also had acne which wasn't as bad as theirs but went on for decades and eventually got prescribed it, it was amazing. You go on it for two or three months, it dries out your skin really badly, but the spots stop! Afterwards your skin is not so dry, just less greasy than before.
It can be difficult to get and I think a dermatologist referral is needed. Also it's v important not to get pregnant while on it as it causes birth defects, so it is pretty radical treatment, but I'm so glad I finally had it. I would so recommend it.
It's really nice of you to want to help her OP.
Benzoyl Peroxide made my skin very dry too, so you have to combine it with oil free moisturiser. Dianette was the best thing for me, but my doctor won't let me have it any more . My friend's dermatologist recommended Neutrogena to her, and I use the Deep Clean daily scrub and really like it. My skin does seem better since I've been using it.
Benzoyl Peroxide burnt my skin. I was using elemis anti-ageing wotsit at the time, I think maybe I thinned it too much and POW - the BP did one on me.
I've seen benzoyl peroxide raved about on here, but a word of caution; the 2.5% one made my skin blister. The blisters then burst and left me with fetching scabs to match the fetching spots. I would test it on a very small patch of skin first!
eyebrows? I will google all these things, thanks.
Agree about benzoyl peroxide, but be careful as it bleaches stuff (towels, eyebrows etc)!
Truly, the benzoyl peroxide is good stuff. A 2.5% ointment generously slathered on twice a day worked for me when years of ABs, the pill and both together didn't help. Direct her to acne.org.
I would hazard a guess that it's not to do with hormones in the way my 'orrible acne was. So no need to suggest the pill etc, as that is more for chin/neck hormonal spots iirc.
I would recommend some deep cleaning but gentle cleansing system - I use la roche posay. And a gentle moisturiser.
Actually I wonder if it's the same thing that was linked on a thread yesterday. I'll go see...
Erm, <goes upstairs on a pretext, tries not to stare> they are on her cheeks and a lot on her forehead and around her hairline. Bumpy and angry red mostly but she does get big whiteheads too. Can't say I've noticed blackheads particularly. She hasn't been here long enough for me too notice whether it's cycle related yet, but I will try to ask her.
Oh Fell you are lovely.
Can you describe her skin a little more, please? Where are the spots? Chin/forehead/cheeks? Are they tiny whiteheads or more like cystic bumps? Is it all the time or does it get worse (like around her cycle?)
Could you get some products and have them on the pretence that they are yours and see if she wants to try them?
Quite honestly I don't know if she would even get the pill prescribed here; as an unmarried woman it is illegal for her to have sex!
Although I am not sure - if it was for sound medical reasons they may make exceptions. Catholic though - unlikely to go for that. (although it would be a weight off my mind in more ways than one if she did.)
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