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Refuges for victims of Domestic violence to close across the UK- how can we stop this happening?

25 replies

Scarletohello · 04/08/2014 09:16

This was posted in Feminism but it also needs to be here. This is a shocking article about how many women's refuges are on the brink of closing across the UK, due to the cuts ( or rather, how the cuts have been implemented...)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2149793-This-is-awfull-refuges-closing?msgid=48680363#48680363

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 04/08/2014 13:08

We could all donate money to organisations like Womens Aid or fundraise on their behalf

PeachyTheSanctiMoanyArse · 04/08/2014 13:13

I've also seen articles this morning saying councils are trying to use equality law to say that as they do not accept men they are not an appropriate use of funds.

Which is pathetic; I'd also give money and support to a men's hostel, I'd like more to exist, and they shouldn't accept females. Anybody experiencing DV deserves help in a safe setting.

Victims of DV are a soft target, too much on their plate to fight, and that's the groups being hit. Have sat and watched the resources my disabled kids can use being cut, school help reduced- this is just the next target on the list.

It's despicable, truly awful.

SilenceOfTheSAHMs · 04/08/2014 13:53

Next MN campaign maybe? Count me in. Lives will be lost if these places disappear :( They are the last resort for many traumatised women.

Twinklestein · 04/08/2014 14:50

The cause seems to be a combination of factors: not simply funding cuts but also the obsession with competitive tendering meaning that housing associations, who have no real experience of dealing with da, are taking over contracts, as well as random small charities with dubious expertise.

The upshot is a philosophical shift, based on the ignorance and naivety of the organisations taking on the new contracts, and perhaps also on Tory dogma, towards what is essentially care in the community.

There's nothing wrong with trying to increase support in the community, but that cannot take the place of refuges. That simply puts women and children in danger. It's nigh impossible to keep women safe in the community, where, either the abuser knows where they are or can easily find out. It's puts massive pressure on police who already struggle to deal with the level of dv as it is, it puts pressure on the women and their children who will continue to live in fear, and it means the woman is not taken out of the abusive situation and given intensive support and therapy to challenge the abusive mind-set.

There exist at least 10 dedicated gay male refuges in the UK, which gay men, like women, set up in response to a clear need. Why straight men have not done the same is unclear: there are only a limited number of dedicated places for heterosexual men, and the answer to this problem is simply to set up more straight male refuges, not penalise women's refuges who have sound reasons for not admitting men.

Ideally, we need a campaign to co-ordinate a mass demonstration by women across the country.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 04/08/2014 15:30

I have donated via text message.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 04/08/2014 15:31

I am going to look up my fucking useless white male tory MP is and write to him too.

3mum · 04/08/2014 19:45

Yes I was appalled to see this. First the removal of legal aid in divorce which hits women far more than men (and I know it is available in DV cases but the threshold is pretty high) and now closing refuges. I am not party political at all, quite the reverse, but there is no doubt that the penny pinching is hitting vulnerable women the most.

It is not even sensible penny pinching since there is a clear link between children growing up in abusive homes and their becoming abusers or abused themselves as adults, which all costs more money in the end.

Scarletohello · 04/08/2014 21:04

Exactly it's not even a cost effective strategy for many reasons, including the fact that many men who commit crimes grew up in abusive households. ( not saying they all do but there is a link )

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SconeRhymesWithGone · 05/08/2014 00:01

I am in the US so there is a limit to what I can do personally except to urge MN to get behind a campaign to address this.

Darkesteyes · 05/08/2014 00:42

Spotted this in my Twitter feed,

Domestic abuse victim sanctioned and left with £2 to live on.

www.opendemocracy.net/5050/dawn-foster/whose-recovery-gendered-austerity-in-uk

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 05/08/2014 00:55

Marking place to remind me to donate tomorrow.

wobblywilma · 05/08/2014 08:45

this is horrendous. this is how we.treat vulnerable women and children. more women will be murdered..what a load of rubbish saying that most women dont want to leave anyway. my daughter and i lived in refuge for 6 months, yes it was scary and at times i didn't want to.be there but.i know that if we had stayed with my ex or even if rehoused he woyuld have continued the violence and even taken it too far. women need that break in refuge. one refuge we were in had 3 large houses and was run entirely by 3 amazing membets of staff! why on earth do these servives have to rely on charity donations? yes to this being the mumsnet pg. i would gladly march to m downing st over this.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2014 09:39

Donating isn't enough... a donation drive does not keep refuges open, they cost 300,000 per year to run.

We need funding and a recognition that this issue is important - nay, vital.

Outreach services are great, but they are next to worthless without the "safety net" of a refuge. Knowing that if all else fails there is somewhere guaranteed you can go makes a huge difference.

Sorry for repeating myself across a couple of threads here.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2014 09:40

If anyone has the capacity to volunteer time, that might work, you could contact your local refuge charity, there is a list of contact information on the Women's Aid page by location.

I wish I could but I'm not in the UK any more either :(

ninilegsintheair · 05/08/2014 09:52

I live in one of the areas that lost its refuges last year. There is no Women's Aid locally. The replacement service is sketchy at best (although I have a lovely contact I've spoken to on the phone for advice/support a few times). When my husband hit me and I rang them it took 3 days for them to get back in touch.

Personally I wouldn't go to refuge anyway (as I couldn't take my cat) but this vital lifeline is now cut in my area.

The cuts were mad due to lack of funding from the council - a council where 2/3 of the councillors are male.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2014 09:53

Three days! :(

ninilegsintheair · 05/08/2014 09:54

long time no see! Thanks

BertieBotts · 05/08/2014 10:15

Hi nini! :) I've been around! Just don't always post in the same places.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2014 10:20

Oh hang on nini, you haven't got me confused with bertiebasset have you? Totally different poster. I thought I was just being forgetful Blush

ninilegsintheair · 05/08/2014 10:24

No no I recognise your name too Smile

TeWiSavesTheDay · 05/08/2014 20:59

thread in campaigns if anyone wants to back fighting this

CaptChaos · 06/08/2014 12:14

Another article about this subject www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/vera-baird-qc/domestic-violence-womens-refuge_b_5647973.html

Twinklestein · 06/08/2014 13:51

Thank CaptChaos, Vera Bair is very good.

I feel absolutely fucking furious about this.

Twinklestein · 06/08/2014 16:37

Baird

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