The MN lessons learnt kitchen thread.

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jollydiane Sun 02-Sep-12 12:58:43

I have read loads of kitchen threads so here is my conclusions.

1. Plan for where you bin is going to go.
2. Handless kitchens look lovely but can wind you up.
3. Floor Tiles look stunning but can be a bugger to keep clean.
4. Splash-backs are very practical for cleaning and can look stunning although some of you think they look naff.

What else should I add to the list before I make my purchase?

The one area I'm really stuck on is flooring. I want something that I can use my lakeland steam mop on (another MN suggestion) which I love.

raspberryroop Sun 02-Sep-12 13:04:44

Love my reycling bins in the cupboard !!!
Cull your kitchen now and see what you really need to store
I wish I had gone ahead with 2 diswashers as although it takes up space you can still 'store' crockery in it.
Be honest with yourself about what type of house keeper you are ie - open shelves are very stylish but take quite alot to keep clean all the time.

partystress Sun 02-Sep-12 13:16:50

Exposed brickwork is a bugger to clean and attracts spiders (who are, moreover, camouflaged and therefore even more shock).

partystress Sun 02-Sep-12 13:17:38

Oh, and if you have space for crap on top of your wall cupboards, crap will materialise to fill that space.

EdMcDunnough Sun 02-Sep-12 13:25:16

I'd go with tiles every time - if you move large items, like replacing a washing machine etc, the vinyl will sometimes get ripped or dented by the feet and then you have to do the entire floor again.
Don't ever have brick effect tiles, or anything else rough as they are impossible to clean.
Ceramic sinks will discolour and scratch fairly quickly, I never realised this.
Don't oil your wooden worktop before attaching/sealing in the sink. Silicon will not stick to oiled wood.
use the wood sealant/hardwax from Howdens (Uni-something) not the ronseal worktop oil or plain Danish oil, neither of which is any use.
Chipboard will eventually rot. Wood will last much longer so if you can afford it, build in or buy or even make (I did) your own cabinets from solid wood.
It's an investment and I'm sure mine cost less than chipboard anyway.

EdMcDunnough Sun 02-Sep-12 13:26:37

Oh and tile the floor before you put in the cabinets. That way if you decide to change them (or have to change them), you can keep the same floor and change the layout without having to knock up all the old tiles and start again because there are gaos where the old cupboards used to be.

EdMcDunnough Sun 02-Sep-12 13:26:52

gaps

CarpeJugulum Sun 02-Sep-12 13:26:57

Similar to poster above, cupboards all the way to the top.

Gives more storage, and means that you have a "where the hell can I stick this" space (and cuts down on areas to clean).

jollydiane Sun 02-Sep-12 13:35:23

Thanks - re tiles, I want to like them but the risk of grotty grout is really putting me off, and it seems that underfloor heating is usually need unless you wear slippers wink and I'm not old enough yet for slippers (just)

EdMcDunnough Sun 02-Sep-12 13:49:30

Ours aren't cold at all. They are ceramic, we don't have underfloor heating.

I guess it depends on your floor - I think our kitchen is raised up a bit compared to the rest of the house, so has some thick foundations or something that stops it getting too cold maybe.

The grout I used is grey to start with so it doesn't show any dirt. I would not have white grout anywhere on a floor - cream, or grey, every time. It looks fine, seriously. And we have lots of muddy boots and pets in and out of ours.

jollydiane Sun 02-Sep-12 13:52:27

Thanks EdMc - I hadn't thought about coloured grout.

MousyMouse Sun 02-Sep-12 14:02:24

yes, tile the whole floor right up to the edges. will also help to keep the slugs out.
get a few extra parts, for example door handles.

PodiumOfWinners Sun 02-Sep-12 14:14:12

It goes knives, forks, spoons

<gavel>

trixymalixy Sun 02-Sep-12 17:20:16

Undercounter fridges are very annoying. Eye level, or even full height if you have the space, is so much better.

It goes from left to right, forks, knives, spoons, the way you would lay them on the table. Anything else is just plain wrong!!

jollydiane Sun 02-Sep-12 19:15:15

There is an order or a kitchen draw??? Don't you just feel really smug if you can get the draw closed in the first place?

tunnocksteacake Sun 02-Sep-12 19:22:35

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mathanxiety Sun 02-Sep-12 19:35:25

Leave yourself space for a mud room or some huge cupboard that can function as a closet for boots and shoes and jackets and coats galore.

A nice big pantry cupboard is a necessity.

I agree about the grey floor grout if tiling, but I would always use wood on a kitchen floor, with yacht sealer or some other very strong sealer to keep the wood from staining and to aid cleanup.

YYY to cabinets extending all the way to the ceiling. You don't get the smelly, sticky dust up there that you would otherwise, and what you put there remains out of sight and clean.

A backsplash is a necessity. Cupboard for the bin ditto.

Leave room for a desk for yourself and keep a good big family calendar there. Put in bookshelves for your recipe books and other papers.

goldmedalmother Mon 03-Sep-12 22:59:59

One thing I don't get is range cookers. I find it really hard to get hot food/ trays safely in and out at that level instead of an oven that's higher up. Am I missing something?

Gentleness Mon 03-Sep-12 23:35:38

Everyone loves deep drawers for crockery and all sorts.

A plan for tea-towels in use. A proper plan that doesn't involve a year of asking dh to use rawl plugs.

(And it is knife-fork-spoon - the way you say it).

mathanxiety Tue 04-Sep-12 05:29:47

yy to knife-fork-spoon

MousyMouse Tue 04-Sep-12 08:47:23

no, it's spoon-knife-fork

In our house it goes spoons, forks, knives. So there!

I don't like higher up ovens. I'm short and they're always position too high for me to get stuff in and out easily.

I also hate high cupboards. What's the point of having shelves that I need to climb on the worktop to get to?

Deep drawers for crockery and saucepans are the best.

Open shelving is a stupid idea

However many sockets you think you might need, double it.

spoon fork knife.

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