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BC no dragons and no snow here . Hope the snow is short lived!

Dd2 was a bit muddled this morning and asked 'Did I want porridge?' I told her yes, so she ate it without a fuss... . Quite amusing to think she totally forgot to have a meltdown over breakfast (her speciality).

SB Hope you do have lovely snow and sunshine and a fantastic break!

IC Sounds like your dd did well on Friday :-) How many sessions does she do? And is there the possibility for her to switch to morning sessions when a place becomes available, so she can keep her afternoon nap for a bit longer?

at the poo smearing <not ready for that, never happened with DD1>

So DD2 also has a conjunctivitis probably due to wiping her nose and then her eye , so drops too.

She is painting now I should probably keep a closer eye on her...

BC Good luck <I am so totally over the snow right now, it has been a long winter>

soc I hope your DD2 is better.

Mous dd2 seems over her ear ache but has quite a heavy cold.

She is a little amused that she has a week off on half term . At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I am still astonished how last week went. She did four days in her new nursery (one day free, they invited her to come in because they had a party and thought she would like to stay the whole day) and loved every minute of it. She made a new best friend on her first day and is already part of a little group of girls her age. It's almost as if she grew up a bit in that week, too. It's a big difference to her to be among 3 and 4 year olds rather than being the oldest, and the nursery is very good at promoting independence. On her first day she loved the fact that as the new girl she was first in the queue to chose her lunch (with help and within reason!) and carry her own tray . She's also much keener to dress and undress herself and is a little more assertive with dd1 (dd1 is on the whole a gentle and kind big sister but does sometimes dominate a bit by being bigger and more articulate). She also seems chattier and can go on at some length trying to get her point across . Right now she is next to me doing puzzles (including her favourite with 50 pieces ) and instructs me to clap whenever she has finished one . It really feels like she has left toddlerhood behind and is a 'real' child now... <feeling sentimental>

Fabulous that DD2 has settled into the new nursery so easily, SC!

Get well soon Mous DD2

How annoying Bc, hope you manage to sort out the provisions okay.

Ah yes, "fixing" food - another one that sets off DD here. Woe betide us that we do anything in the name of making it more simple for her to eat - or eat bits she doesn't want (even with permission quite often).

Horrendous day with DD yesterday. Not sure whether she was a bit poorly (although she felt quite hot, her temperature was only around 37) or whether it was to do with the withholding, but she was a grumpy misery-guts all day. We went to the local Aquarium, which was great but DD grumbled throughout, scarcely touched her lunch and back home, wouldn't get off the sofa after her sleep, just kept moaning that she needed to do a poo (but didn't do it). She didn't touch a bite at supper, just saying she wanted to go to bed but was then awake for ages (I gave her a bit of Calpol). I felt emotionally spent at the end of it. Loads of Movicol and still nothing. Almost needless to say, PT/TT now completely on the back burner - she doesn't even show any interest in using the potty or toilet nowadays.

But today she was much brighter, had a better appetite and more energy, even before she finally did a poo. So who knows, maybe she was just a bit poorly? She's at nursery now - DH dropped her off and said she seemed a bit forlorn, but was being encouraged to show some more children her "All About Me" box, so hopefully she'll be jollied out of it.
<sigh>
I love her dearly, but if I could wave a magic wand, DD would have no toileting issues, would NOT be a fussy eater and would generally be more enthusiastic about new experiences.....

IC fx for her afternoon in nursery

dd2 just told me off for clapping because she hadn't told me to do so yet... . If anyone is interested, her favourite puzzle is the playground one by Orchard Toys.

The doc. said seeing DD2 file "wow 3 years, lets measure her" I thing she is making some kind of experiment with her. She has seen her since 2 weeks old...
Any way, yes she is big! 105 cm 17.5 Kg with all her ribs showing and 3 cm taller than DD1 at that age who was already tall <--and much chubbier-->

my strikings don't work anymore.

SOC

IC I hope your DD will settle quickly < -- and poo-- >

poo

mous Her height and weight are in proportion though which is fine. According to my chart it makes her the average height and weight for a 4 1/2 year old but she is also still within the chart for a tall 3 year old!
And at least your girls are both tall. I get a lot of comments about dd2 because she looks tiny next to me and dd1 .

Just caught dd2. She's 15kg and is 93cm which is not in proportion... seems she's growing sideways rather than up

ah! but DD1 does that before a growth spurt! <I mean grows sideway> Your DD2 doesn't looks like she is going sideway BTW, DD1 was chubbier.

12kg, 88cm

I've no idea how heavy and tall DD is - must measure her one of these days (tricky, seeing as we have neither a tape measure nor a set of scales....) - but it's fair to say she's still dinky.

She had an okay day at nursery - DH said she was on her own staring out of the window when he arrived to pick her up and she hadn't touched any tea. But she was fairly chipper about it when she arrived back and hasn't said anything about not wanting to go back again, so with any luck, she'll settle properly before long.

Orchard toys things are great. We have their shopping list memory game - ds loves it.

mous I've been waiting for that growth spurt for a year

IC She will get there . It is all very new to her and if she has been feeling under the weather it's not surprising that she is a little underwhelmed right now. Which age group is she with? Do they mix all ages or is she mainly with 3 and 4 year olds? She's a bright little thing so maybe she feels a little at a loose end with younger children? Just thinking aloud here... I am sure she will settle in her own time. It sounds like a fantastic place!

BC I agree, we have lots of their puzzles

dd2 told me more about her new nursery at bedtime, sang the welcome song they use in the morning complete with hand movements, and told me you have to stand in a big circle for it. And did I and dh sing the same song when we were little? . She also said when they sit on the floor for stories the children all put their legs like so (attempt at crossed legs) but that she can't do that yet .
Staff did tell me that although she's had a really good start there may be a blip when the novelty wears off... I am also not sure she'll be so keen on swimming (she'll start that once a week after half term) although the swimming teachers is wonderful.

Quiet day here, freezing cold outside. I did chase the girls round the park for a bit this afternoon just to get some fresh air but all of us were glad to get back inside.

I asked Dd2 if she slept well and she told me no because she had had to sleep outside like her sister . Just hoping nursery workers take most things with a pinch of salt!

Sounds great, SC!

Well, another horrendous morning with DD - she didn't sleep well last night (withholding) and ate virtually nothing, just stayed on the sofa all morning. We decided not to try nursery today. She perked up a bit after she did some of her poo (not all, though...) and had a lunchtime nap - managed to eat a reasonable snack and a bit of supper. But her appetite is still below what it usually is. And she's still withholding. We spoke to the nursery manager and hopefully they'll put in some extra hand-holding for DD next week. But we're only giving it one more week and if there's no sign of improvement, we'll forfeit our deposit and take DD out. After all, it's one thing for her to be a bit upset at nursery to start with, another when she reacts to the extreme that it's severely affecting her sleeping, eating and bowel movements. I can't keep putting her through that (or the rest of the family, come to that....DH and I are getting stressed out about it too).

It does worry me that she's responded like this - internalising the stress and taking it out on her own body. I have fears that this type of personality trait may lead to problems in the future - eating disorders, self harming etc. So I've resolved to try and sort out some play therapy for DD in the hope that it will help her to find less harmful outlets for her emotions and anxieties. I'm worried that if we leave it, these kind of responses will become entrenched.

<sigh>

Sorry if you think I'm over-reacting, but DD has been severely out of kilter off and on since her first solo session at nursery. And I can't sit by and watch it impact on her health. Such a shame, because she was so enthusiastic to start with.

<sob>

IC I don't think you are overreacting at all. You know your daughter best! <hugs> And you are quite right to deal with any anxiety issues sooner rather than later. Poor little thing

Quick post while DH and DS are sleeping.

IC <hands holding>

DS is 96cm and 14kg. As we're at my parents he's sleeping in a thick matress on the floor and we've just realised he slided and was on the tiled floor (brr). But he didn't wake up when put back. So now weneed to think of a planB