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Done. Had a miscarriage last week and was horrified at some of the terminology used. Will never forget those conversations

Thank you mn.

long overdue to get this right
Wish this had been done 20 years ago (or 22 years ago yesterday, to be exact)

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Glad this is being looked into.
The medical profession could do with learning some sensitivity.

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Done - good initiative.

I still think back to my discharge letter from hospital after my MC (MMC, supposed to have surgery but it happened naturally at home and all went a bit wrong so had to get ambulance and stay overnight in hospital) and the words 'spontaneous abortion' written on it. Made me sound like a cow or something as it's a term I'm only familiar with from veterinary practice, not human beings Really terrible insensitivity about MC in many hospitals still.

done you dont treat a pg you manage it. mc should be the same imo. also treatment implies making it better. either are more sensitive to the original though. thanks MN!

Done, thanks for campaigning on this MN.

I agree about the term 'missed abortion' too. It was so horrible to have what had happened to our baby connected in any way to that word and everything it usually means.

It seems an odd time to make this positive change, when plans are also afoot to reduce women's access to erpcs by making them wait two weeks to see if it happens 'naturally' first.

Iggi I thought the same thing.

I think many of us on this thread who were sad to be told the ERPC was the op name would also have been very sad to be offered no choice of treatment, as proposed in the current nice guidelines.

Done. I think some of the terminology used in the medical profession, but particularly used in relation to miscarriage/other related things, is exceptionally insensitive.

I agree about the 'missed abortion' term too.

Maples I quite agree. I am picturing someone in an office somewhere saying "But we gave you a nice new name for it, you mean you expect us to offer you it as well???"

Done. And I agree with PP's, there is still a lot to be learnt about sensitivity in the NHS with regards to all this

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Thank you very much Kate.

I suppose what I am worried about is that we feed back on the consultation and then they still go ahead with this change

I still can't believe they are proposing this

Done. Good job MN

Done, one small step and all that ....

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I had my miscarriage outside the UK, so never came into contact with these terms until I was thankfully over the worst emotional distress. I believe very strongly that my ability to deal with the loss is down to the superb way in which the hcps helped me through that time. I was always spoken to like a real person, in practical jargon-free language.

Done. Missed/spontaneous abortion is a phrase that makes me too. You choose to have an abortion, you DON'T choose to have a miscarriage.

Thanks for the link to the consultation thread.

The NICE recommendation for expectant management is appalling.

From the other thread:

"The recommendation re: 7-14 days waiting for expectant management are particularly cruel: how can you function for that long, particularly in a working environment, waiting for "nature to take it's course". Employers will be unhappy about increased levels of sickness, as women are signed off, with their lives on hold & unable to work."

Done. Tbh ERPC as a term/acronym didn't bother me. The SHO consistently and persisitently referring to my previous spontaneous miscarriage as an abortion I found abhorrent. I did complain.