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Atos benefit bullies killed my dad

Why is there not a punishment clause in their contract that forces them to pay out millions to those who are wrongly taken off benefit? (Rhetorical. We all know the reason)

What a shower of utter cunts.

They are a shower of cunts, indeed. They claimed retro-actively, that my husband was fit to work whilst I was away caring for our daughter with cancer, who died in July.

They truly are fuckers

They've declared my mum fit for work, her doctor and consultant insists she isn't.

The youngster said a previous stroke on Boxing Day last year had caused a blood clot on Brian’s brain.

He was left paralysed down his left side, unable to speak properly, blind in one eye and barely able to eat or dress.

How on earth was he classed as fit to work?

Utter cunts!!!!

Sure what do doctors know?

They're public servants <spits>

He doesn't need to be able to eat or dress unless he's going to be a fashion model or a restaurant critic.

Blind in one eye means he still has one good eye to out to work.

This really isn't a story. Plenty of people die of heart attacks every day. Being disabled doesn't equal unable to work. I am sure there are jobs that this man could have done. I've no doubt that the 13 year old son is pissed off, but it's ridiculous for him to be blaming ATOS for his dads death.

That is shocking. Someone has a fucking stroke and it's seen as acceptable to put him through the stress of that assessment, and then piling it on by withdrawing his benefits? WTF? I would love someone, somewhere, to take this up and sue those bastards. How the fuck can the people who put that man through that live with themselves?

Cozy, did you read the story

Cozy9 - What job could someone do with a bleed on the brain, paralysed down his left hand side, blind in one eye and unable to feed or dress himself?

Holy fuck Expat! After what you went through with Ailidh they're doing that? They're even bigger cunts than I thought.

Cozy, which bit of "He was left paralysed down his left side, unable to speak properly, blind in one eye and barely able to eat or dress." did you not understand?

This is disgusting

Cozy....you are IDS incognito....right?

I have friends (both nurses) who work for ATOS. What frustrates me (and them) most is that they have no actual say in th decision making process. They are purely employed to do the check and then everything is passed on to a non medical decision maker who decides where the client goes. I asked my friend how much say she got in it all....she said sometime they can write enough to swing it the clients way but that the decision makers don't always listen.

Awful

'Being disabled doesn't equal unable to work. I am sure there are jobs that this man could have done. I've no doubt that the 13 year old son is pissed off, but it's ridiculous for him to be blaming ATOS for his dads death.'

In some cases, it does.

Surely you can't give people benefits without them being assessed in the first place?

Don't forget the role of the DWP decision-makers, and, ultimately, the Government. Though I have no time for companies cashing in on these vile policies, remember where they originate. And don't get me started on the 'I'm sure there are jobs he could have done' brigade. These policies get pushed through because people like that believe the disablist propaganda that infects our country.
Cozy, of course people are assessed. That doesn't mean they are always assessed correctly. The new system is full of traps for the innocent but genuine claimant. It's a massively stressful process.

Cozy - what jobs do you think this man would have been able to do, being blind in one eye and paralysed down one side of his body? If he cannot do simple tasks like feeding or dressing himself, how many jobs is he going to be able to do? And how likely is it that an employer will take him on, given his poor state of health?

I have a family friend going for one of these assesments next week, she is only 18 and was on JSA but needed major surgery which she had in september, she was advised by the job centre to stop claiming JSA hand in doctors notes and claim some sort of sickness benefit instead (I am not sure what) until she was well to go back on JSA and start attending the fortnightly meetings, she was 4 weeks post surgery when she got a letter telling her to attend an ATOS meeting, she is 18 ill and very vunerable, the hospital have botched her operation so she will def need another one maybe more, she is severly annemic and her wound is infected, she still has to go to the meeting next week and it's making her very anxious.

I must agree with Jake here. Totally preparing for flaming here, but...

My father works for Atos. Not in that department, but obviously has a feel for what goes on. I really think from what he says (that may obviously be biased) that the government are letting Atos take the shit for this. Atos follow guidelines given to them by government. The government have decided who should and should not work, not Atos.

It seems a good arrangement for the government - they know Atos will take the shit for them - they will not argue with all this negative publicity because it doesn't affect them - their customer is the government, rather than the public iyswim.

This is the problem with privatisation - the public are thrown to the mercy of a company whose first concern is not their wellbeing.

I probably haven't put this very well, but it seems to be all wrong... this is the governments fault!

ATOS is making a huge profit from doing their dirty work, though.

Thats true, and I wouldn't like to work for them myself, but i feel private companies should not be held morally responsible for things the government are meant to look after.

As a private company their primary concern is profit, and doing what their customer (the government) wants.

To call them a shower of cunts is unfair to cunts.

My apologies hackmum. How about a bunch of completely heartless cuntworms?

And what about this one?

I honestly believe Pootles has it right - this government actively wants to hound ill people to death because they cost too much.