benefit change could breach law

(109 Posts)
borderslass Sat 08-Jan-11 09:45:39
greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 11:04:46

There is a realism when people need DLA but so far
in order to get it one depends on opinion of the GP and the nurse.
Consultation ending 14th February.

2shoes Sat 08-Jan-11 11:07:02

I hope the government end up having to back track, this is going to ruin lives.
taking that part of DLA away will affect the most disabled people. people who can't just buy a cheap run around.

sheepgomeep Sat 08-Jan-11 11:34:11

Its awful isn't it. My ds gets DLA and I have resigned myself to the fact that he will lose it now.

This is going to impact on so many lives. Shame on the govt for this

GooseFatRoasties Sat 08-Jan-11 11:45:39

I hope the government get pulled up on this. It's terrible.

greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 13:53:59

DLA will be like cancer drugs, or second opinion you: have a right but you don't get them always.

electra Sat 08-Jan-11 14:26:20

I heard this today on the radio. I hope this will make it more difficult for the government to go ahead with their fascist plans. On another thread the other day I was getting called 'hysterical' for saying the tories don't care about vulnerable people. hmm

greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 15:12:46

I have not yet seen somebody in office who really cares, I have seen disabled people in the cold and rain sleeping in the streets for at least 10 years

2shoes Sat 08-Jan-11 15:58:18

I wish this got as much support as the EE threads did, strange how mn can get up in arms over fiction, but rl horror like this is ignored

bullet234 Sat 08-Jan-11 16:16:54

In reply to the OP, yes, it's a bloody disgrace that they are even thinking of implementing these changes.

Niceguy2 Sat 08-Jan-11 16:50:22

This is an item where the govt cannot win so previous governments (including Thatcher) have pretty much left it well alone.

As soon as you initiate any reforms then someone must lose out and the press will then happily post pictures of wheelchair bound people chaining themselves to the railings at Westminster.

But the problem is that we're up to our eyeballs in debt and simply cannot afford to continue with the status quo. So something needs to be done. Someone must lose out. Or we all lose out eventually as the weight of our debts will just collapse us.

We do need to support our vulnerable and sick but its where you draw the line that's the hardest. We simply don't have a magic pot of money. What we did have has run out so something has to give.

I don't envy whoever has to make the decision at all.

donkeyderby Sat 08-Jan-11 17:22:42

'We simply don't have a magic pot of money'....so let's take money away from the most vulnerable of all and leave inheritance tax and top band tax as it was.

Yes, that's really fair, isn't it?

Let the people at the bottom pay for the banking crisis. Good. Well said Niceguy. You could be working for the coalition

2shoes Sat 08-Jan-11 17:30:00

so niceguy you think that vulnerable disabled people should be made to suffer more??
see that is the problem people just don't see the bigger picture, or don't care

Good. Hope the government has to back track on this, but am also wondering about the Fawcett's Society challenge that the benefit cuts discriminated against women and children.

expatinscotland Sat 08-Jan-11 17:43:47

Well said, donkey!

Niceguy2 Sat 08-Jan-11 18:07:38

Well Donkey WWYD?

Tax the rich more? Oh yes that's always the answer isn't it?

And another one who thinks the banking crisis is to blame for our structural deficit. Oh please!

GooseFatRoasties Sat 08-Jan-11 18:19:27

Taxing the rich is preferable to penalising the disabled IMHO.

2shoes Sat 08-Jan-11 18:28:57

anything has to be better than taking support away from disabled people

electra Sat 08-Jan-11 18:46:42

Wow niceguy - what patronising posts you subject us all to on MN.

greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 18:58:02

Niceguy I liked your posts, only I wish to add the matter was left for several epochs as it was in the pot and as bad as it could be. And in fact nothing much going in the pot except drops in the ocean for decades but there was not much tumultuous either from anybody. we did not know how many disabled there are - I know what is to care for a D child. Not only droplets going in for disabled but much going out of their pot in other ways since in 2002: DLA children of widows were deprived the £10 weekly tip they were getting! after they lost the dad!!! The widow was deprived of the inheritance of pitiful SERPS that could add to her utterly pitiful allowance for ever, and her disabled child ..guess.? Nobody fired then. what a sad story! WE never get them these stories in the news. I do not know who is good the bad and the ugly anymore. To continue the story, as nothing much was in the pot for disabled - even in the pre-coalition - and more getting out, the rising costs caught eventually on our debts. The thing is most of us only have debts. Time has passed since then and people forget. The debts do not forget anybody.

If you want to raise more the headlines first look at the inner city schools and how disability and SEN is tackled there.

greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 19:04:33

Support has been taken away from the disabled constantly since long but we noticed now

greencaterpillar Sat 08-Jan-11 19:09:32

Te very rich as well have disabled in their families did you know?

I was hoping to join in the debate but green, i'm sorry, I don't understand you.

Agree with donkeyderby though.

Newgolddream Sat 08-Jan-11 19:18:39

It just gets worse and worse, the cuts are coming too fast and too much all dressed up in Tory hype - they would have done this anyway regardless of how much debt this country is in, its just convenient for them to blame it all on that.

electra - you are absolutely correct, they dont care about vulnerable people.

Apart from clamping down on tax-dodgers and reassessing our involvement in wars for a start, didn't the London NY fireworks cost 1 million?

Why attack the most vulnerable?

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