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Ethical dilemmas

friend of DD being thrown out at 18

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molliec · 28/01/2013 16:48

My dds friend is on the verge of being thrown out by his father and step mother. He has has tentatively asked if he can stay in our spare room and pay rent from a small part time job. He is a nice lad and struggling to finish A levels and get to university. For some reason they do seem to be giving him a very hard time. I usually take what the kids say with a pinch of salt but this case seems genuine. He is rarely allowed to use the computer or internet - his course is computer studies- so he is already a year behind. His list of cores after school make me go pale. I dont want to interfere and cannot really afford a lodger but at 18 I cant think of anyone else to help him.

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lljkk · 28/01/2013 17:04

You need to find out more about his circumstances. I would probably let him stay, though.

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diamondee · 28/01/2013 17:33

I think I would let him stay and see how it goes? He's old enough to understand if it doesn't work out.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 28/01/2013 17:40

As long as his rent covers what it costs you to keep him (electricity/gas/food etc), I'd take him in. I actually did take in DS's friend when he left home at 18, having fallen out with his stepdad. It was fine.

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CMOTDibbler · 28/01/2013 17:49

I'd take him in as a lodger, paying what rent he can afford and see how it goes.

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molliec · 28/01/2013 17:54

Thanks everyone. I think you are right. Does anyone know of any official help for people in these circumstances. All I can find is info about 16 or 17 year olds or " looked after" children. It just doesnt seem fair when a kid is trying to make something out of his life and may be denied the chance.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 28/01/2013 18:01

He/you could contact CAB and/or Shelter to ask if he can get any sort of benefits or bursary.

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CMOTDibbler · 28/01/2013 18:03

His tutor at school/college should be able to put him in touch with local services

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ggirl · 28/01/2013 18:08

This happened to a friend of dd's , As soon as she turned 18 her father chucked her out....very bizarre imo.
She worked 2 part time jobs and rented a flat. Felt very sorry for her.

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MariusEarlobe · 28/01/2013 18:10

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pixi2 · 28/01/2013 18:12

I can't stop thinking about this. Please take him in. He sounds like a decent young man. Once he is in your home he should meet with his head of year or personal tutor to tell them about the situation. They may be able to help him claim any benefits he could be entitled to and look into something such as sheltered accommodation.

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MariusEarlobe · 28/01/2013 18:12

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molliec · 28/01/2013 18:13

We are going to approach someone at school who might help but the lad seems reluctant to ask himself. I suppose I can understand. Who wants to admit their own dad doesn't love them. Hard to take at any age! My big fear is that he`ll tolerate the situation too long and then finally crack and do something drastic.

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thereonthestair · 28/01/2013 18:13

My mum did this for my friend at school. It was something which I still think (nearly 20 years later) was amazing and selfless of her. It marked a real plus in my relationship with her as an adult. So if you can I really would. It made a real long term difference to my friends life as he finished his a levels and went on to get a degree.

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bubbles1231 · 28/01/2013 18:14

Under the government rent a room scheme I think you are entitled to earn about £4000 tax free. Also he may be entitled to housing benefit?
Or you could do it more informally.

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molliec · 28/01/2013 18:17

Thanks again. This lad has done nothing even remotely bad. We will not turn him away whatever happens. I couldnt live with that but a lot of damage has been done. His poor mother must be turning in her grave.

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nancerama · 28/01/2013 18:20

DH's DB was in a similar situation. MIL remarried and as soon as BIL turned 18 they refused to support him, despite the fact he was a great kid and very little bother.

He gets enough housing benefit to rent a room in a shared house. I believe SIL had to give a statement to the housing office confirming that BIL was no longer permitted to live in the family home and there were no relatives nearby with space to house him. I think they had to appeal, but they got the benefit after a couple of weeks. We were unable to take him on as we live 2 hours away and BIL didn't want to leave his apprenticeship to move away from the area.

I hope everything works out ok for this lad. I hate how families can be in these situations.

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ihearsounds · 28/01/2013 18:24

Benefit changes mean that he would only be able to rent a room as a house share anyway. At least if you take him in, he knows the other tenants. Plus if you are a tenant he would be doing you a favour because that spare room would no longer be a spare room and cost you more.

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noddyholder · 28/01/2013 18:29

I say yes do it.

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AvonCallingBarksdale · 28/01/2013 18:36

I would, and my parents did with one of my friends. I think, once you know they're in trouble, you can't not IYSWIM. You sound lovely, OP

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JenaiMorris · 28/01/2013 18:37

Would he be allowed to claim anything, seeing as he isn't a job seeker?

I certainly hope so, poor lad.

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 28/01/2013 18:41

OP you are a good woman to do this. I hope that I would do the same as you if confronted with this situation.

If he is 18 and not living with his parents, then I would think he should be entitled to something - do students get HB?

I would definitely speak to school, and if you get no luck there then perhaps go with him to CAB and see what they think?

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orangeandlemons · 28/01/2013 18:44

I think you would also be eligible for his child benefit.

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MariusEarlobe · 28/01/2013 18:50

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MisForMumNotMaid · 28/01/2013 18:55

possibly he could get this £1200/yr

Income support seams a bit hazy on whether he'd get it. It'd be worth an appointment with the school student councillor, unfortunately they'll have seen it before.

EMA (educational maintenance allowance) is still available in Wales, i know its not in England but if your in Scotland or N.Ireland its one to check out.

The social fund will make one of payments. If you decided to take him in you could request two months deposit, which he could apply to the social fund for This would then be his when he/ you're ready for him to move on to put down on his next place. It would obviously insure you as well against that tiny bit of risk - I know thats not what you're posting about.

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bubbles1231 · 28/01/2013 21:46

CAB have fantastic benefits advisors. You fill out a form about circumstances, they plug it into their computer and it tells exactly which benefits can be claimed. Some CABs are first come first served and you have to wait it out, but others you can make an appt. Please be patient though as they are seriously overstretched.

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