My nan told me never to let a man near me in that way as all it caused was pain
She had 2 births but only one survived my dad
When I told her I was pregnant she nearly killed exDH she said no man should put anyone through that pain
and told me that now I had one never to try again!!!
She would be shocked to find three of them running round now
My maternal grandmother had 9 she said it was like shelling peas my mum says much the same so I must get my birthing skills from my other nan !!!!!!!!