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Childbirth

Caulophyllum (30c)

28 replies

RainDancer · 21/11/2012 19:03

Has anyone used this from 37 weeks onwards to prepare for labour? It was recommended to me by my local health food shop when I went in to buy some Arnica but now I'm nervous about taking it as I'm not sure whether it carries any risk. I'm also concerned as to whether it will have any effect on the thyroxine medication I take for my Hashimoto's disease (underactive thyroid). Anyone know anything about it? I'm currently 37+4. I will ask my midwife but not due to see her until next week so any Mumsnet advice gratefully received!

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ShushBaby · 21/11/2012 19:25

I did and had fantastic birth and recovery. Whether it helped, it's impossible to say(I'm not 'into' homeopathy but a relative is a homeopath and I figured it couldn't hurt). Took 200c though. Couldn't tell you about risks but afaik homeopathy doesn't have any contraindications or side effects.

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RainDancer · 21/11/2012 21:06

Thanks shush - perhaps I'll give it a go!

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SquashNutButter · 21/11/2012 21:18

I did. My understanding is that it helps bring on labour.
The homeopath in the shop wouldn't sell it to me until my due date though (it was recommended by an acupuncturist). I started having contractions a few hours after starting it but didn;t give birth until 3.5 days later. I always wondered if perhaps it had set off my contractions prematurely and the baby wasn't quite ready, hence several days of contractions. I don't think it did any harm though and the birth was fine. I would wait another two weeks though. 37 is too early to take something that has the potential to kick start labour

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mrswee · 21/11/2012 21:41

thanks for posting this I ddn't know about Caulophyllum but might give it a try after really positive experiances with homepathic remedies in my last birth
here is a good link that tells yoiu all about various homepathic remedies including Caulophyllum.
www.britishhomeopathic.org/hh_article_bank/general_health/beginners_guide_labour_and_childbirth.html

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narmada · 24/11/2012 18:44

you can if you want but you do know it is just a sugar and water pill, right ;) ?

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Panzee · 24/11/2012 18:46

The sugar will be good for a lift during labour. :)

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narmada · 24/11/2012 18:47

and it definitely will not interact with your thyroxine because it is completely inactive aside from the

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narmada · 24/11/2012 18:48

sugar!

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StrawberrytallCAKE · 24/11/2012 18:49

I took it at 42 weeks last pg on the day before and day of my induction, I have no idea whether it did anything as I'd already started having contractions when they induced me but the labour was quick!?

I do know they won't sell it to you in Australia if you have high blood pressure though.

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crunchingautumnleaves · 24/11/2012 21:14

I'd consult a qualified homeopath for advice on usage & if it cannot be used with the medication you are on. Midwives, unless they have any training in homeopathy, will probably not know all that much about it.

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picnicbasketcase · 24/11/2012 21:16

It is indeed your choice but like they say, 'homeopathy - there's nothing in it'.

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SamSmalaidh · 24/11/2012 21:19

No, it can't do any harm! Honestly, magic water cannot possibly interact with any medication - you drink water and eat sugar every day.

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narmada · 24/11/2012 21:30

what sam smalaidh said.

spend your money on a nice meal out instead of seeing a 'qualified' homeopath.

Unlike herbal medicines, homeopathic remedies as complete and utter woo :)

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mrswee · 24/11/2012 21:35

so arnica doesnt work then? Hmm

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SamSmalaidh · 24/11/2012 21:36

Arnica works. Homeopathic arnica pills don't contain any arnica though.

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SamSmalaidh · 24/11/2012 21:37

mrswee, do you understand how homeopathic remedies are produced, what the number actually means?

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narmada · 24/11/2012 21:41

herbal arnica works. not 'homeopathic' though.

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mrswee · 24/11/2012 22:48

Yes SamSmalaidh I do understand. I also have personal experiance of them working esspecially in the case of Arnica.
I don't mind at all that not every one believes homepathy can work as a complementry theraphy but I find it annoying when people decide that because they think it is tosh or they don't fully understand why it works that other people who have used it sucessfully must be incorrect.

anyway I don't want an argument, I'm 39 weeks pregnant and could do without it but the OP asked for advise about dosage of a particular remedy not an opinion on if it works or not. The NHS use homeopathy and many midwives reconmend the use of particular remedies to aid child birth and recovery.

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SamSmalaidh · 24/11/2012 22:59

So arnica diluted in 100 parts water, and then that diluted in 100 parts water, again and again 30 times until there are no molecules of arnica left, oh and hit with a leather strap of course, so the water "remembers" the arnica, and then put on a sugar pill... "works" Hmm

If water can remember things that have once been in it, how come we aren't poisoned by all the chemicals that are remembered by tap water?

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Panzee · 24/11/2012 23:04

I don't want to think about water remembering wee.

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narmada · 25/11/2012 09:04

I think i have a pretty good understsnding of why homeopathy 'works'.

It is either regression to the mean- eg you were going to get better anyway at that point and/or it is a placebo effect, which can be very powerful.

The fact that homeopathy has been proven NOT to work any better than placebo (because it is a sugar pill) is relevant to the OP's post. She was asking about doses, we said it doesn't matter because there is no actual medicine in it.

The fact that honeopathy is used on the NHS is a national disgrace.

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picnicbasketcase · 25/11/2012 09:49

I can't believe they beat the water with a strap to make it remember the herbs, that's just cruel Sad

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Panzee · 25/11/2012 10:13

End cruelty to water now!

I guess that's my cup of tea ruined then. :)

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unexpectediteminbaggingarea · 25/11/2012 10:14

re the midwives recommending homeopathy. Unless they are registered homeopathic practitioners they are breaking the rules of their registration by recommending homeopathy.

Actually even if they are registered practitioners they are still not following their practice guidelines by failing to offer evidence based advice, and probably invalidating their trust's liability insurance to boot.

The NHS use of homeopathy is a disgrace.

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SamSmalaidh · 25/11/2012 11:54

I can understand why midwives (and GPs) do sometimes recommend homeopathy though - if they have very anxious patients without anything really wrong with them, then it does "work". It's a bit condescending/disrespectful though! I use the "special medicine/magic plaster" trick with my 2 year old Hmm

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