Hi Riven, I am interested too cos of OH's MS. He doesnt smoke it. We watched his sister smoke herself into oblivion (she also had MS). It became very difficult to seperate the symptoms of MS from her being stoned. It is still possible to become totally dependent even if you are puffing for the right reasons and her life revolved entirely around the draw.

Lets hope they come up with something good soon.

i've judged so often i am left with merely an anus...but obviously i am always correct in my harsh judgment of others, without exception

Sativex works well for me (I have relapsing remitting as well) but its hard to get. A doctor must agree to take personal reposnisbility for the prescription and apply to the PCT for it to be funded. Most PCT's refuse. So you can get it from a private prescription from that doctor but then its £200 a month!
I no longer get it.
My GP told me to go by weed. I refuse to smoke weed cos I don't want to be stoned cos of dd and her epielpsy. So I live on tramadol and gabapentin instead. I cant wait till its finally approved.
mind you, its tastes vile. You squirt the sativex under your tongiue and you need a bit of chocolate ready cos it tastes to horrible! 20 mins later your pain is gone.
Anyone want to write to their MP's to get this proven treatment approved for MS sufferers, feel free

Riven - interested in your post. I have relapsing remitting MS take interferon injections also have had tegretol and beta blockers in the past. Stopped all 3 months bef conception of both DD's. Always paranoid about accidentally falling pregnant whilst on medication.. Have never tried medicinal cannabis though does it work?? Apologies to everyone else for dullness of this post

I use sativex and have used medicinal cannabis - i Have multiple sclerosis - but no way would I take either when pregnant. I have a brain damaged baby that I'm convinced was because I took a medicine the manufacturers assured me was safe (I phone them up and asked) during pregnancy.
There's not enough studies. Its not worth it. Its only 9 months fgs.

there is heaps of research on smoking tobacco during pregnancy just like their is now heaps of reseacrh which clearly links long term cannabis use to mental health problems.

i work with these adults when they become parents, it is highly addictive, it does cause massive mental health issues, it costs money, it is illegal, and once dependant in many cases i work with it does interfere with being a good enough parent. It is a very damaging drug that people often minimise, and most who minimise are users as there is not many professional people who would encourage or say it is ok to smoke this drug when pregnant as chances are they will continue after the child is born

I think if people smoke it during pregnancy they are showing that they put their own needs above that of their child.

Think it depends where you're getting it from. I have smoked weed in the past but found it wasn't the drug for me, and made me paranoid and freak out. Black and pollen don't seem to have the same effect and can be enjoyable on occasion. Most stuff available now is skunk however and not something I would want to subject my unborn baby too. DH has smoked it since he was a teenager and has a great deal of mental health issues. Not sure how much can be attributed to weed, but he needs to smoke it every night to get to sleep at the mo.
The stronger forms of skunk, that can potentially be sprayed with glass (to mimic the appearance of THC) would not be something I would touch pregnant or not now. I think if you smoke all the time, you lose the glorious giggly feeling that occasional users get. I plan to have the odd one at parties after DS arrives.
If you know your supplier/grow it yourself, it's possibly fine whilst pregnant. I would be loath to smoke anything whilst pregnant though, esp. as most people smoke with tobacco and herbal tobacco is not particularly great for you either. Weed tea may be an option for some if it helps with morning sickness/pain. I am 32 weeks now and may consider having this to help with labour pains myself.

Good, I'm glad you know people who grow it themselves, but I'm sure you can acknowledge that the majority of users don't buy it from some hippy, and instead support a criminal fraternity causing misery in their communities. Once you hand over your cash to the dealer, you have no way of knowing whose pocket it's lining and what's being done with the proceeds - although it doesn't take a genuis to work out that no-one is really benefitting except the criminals.

"The Endocannabinoid System
Cannabis preparations have been used medically for thousands of years for illnesses such as epilepsy, migraine headaches, childbirth, and menstrual symptoms. However, it is only relatively recently that the active components have been identified and their mechanisms of action have begun to be understood. While delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) was first synthesized by Mechoulam in 1967 [5], it was not until 1990 that the cannabinoid receptor was localized in the brain [6] and cloned [7]. Since then, discoveries in the field have proceeded at an ever-increasing pace. The discovery of cannabinoid receptors on cells naturally prompted the search for internal compounds (endogenous ligands) that would activate the receptors since it seemed unlikely that cannabis receptors had evolved so people could partake of cannabis. In 1992, anandamide was discovered [8]. This lipid metabolite was the first ligand of an ever-expanding class of molecules known as endocannabinoids (internal marijuana-like compounds) to be discovered. Endocannabinoid synthesis, degradation, transport, and receptors together form the endocannabinoid system.
The broad therapeutic potential that can result from correctly manipulating the endocannabinoid system is just beginning to be realized[9,10]. In fact, major pharmaceutical companies, and university researchers all around the world are now engaged in the cannabinoid-related research [11]. Their efforts focus on learning how the endocannabinoid system functions, and on how to manipulate it in order to increase or decrease its activity, depending on the illness or condition under consideration. GW Pharmaceuticals in Britain has been developing and testing a plant extract-based product line that is in clinical trials in Britain and Canada [12]. The results thus far have been positive to the extent that Bayer AG has entered into a 25-million-dollar distribution agreement for GW's product, Sativex which has recently been approved in Canada. In contrast, Sanofi Research has developed an antagonist that will inhibit the ability of endocannabinoids to stimulate hunger and thus potentially be useful for weight control".

Robert Melamede
1Biology Department, 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, 80918, USA
2Bioenergetics Institute, 1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, 80918, USA
http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/2/1/17#IDAQG4GG

I gave up fags when I found out I was pregnant, and I stopped drinking. Why Imy choice of nausea medicine during the worst of morning sickness,(I took it a couple of times during the peek,when unable to eat due to constant sickness) and my choice of pain relef during labour so morally wrong? THC dosnt cross the placenta as much as pethidine dose.
As for supporting crime, the hairy hippy's who grow it that I know, sort there rubbish for recycle very carefully. There worst crimes have been against fashion.
People are scared to share there positive story's of medical canabis use because of the ridiculous legal status of it.
It grew wild in the UK, imagine if they made drinking nettle tea illegal?.

Scottishmummy: THC is an anti-emetic. It's also an analgesic and a mild sedative. That it is currently illegal and may not always be available in a pure form doesn't change the basic properties of the drug and if it is used responsibly it probably isn't very high risk.

ah,gastrointestinally soothing thc?any ole excuse for a puff

universally recommended if gaviscon dont hit the spot.not

I think it's probably the case that low/moderate use, especially when not mixed with tobacco, does minimal harm and may even be helpful (such as in cases of hyperemesis).
And Paolosgirl: remember that a lot of the criminality involved in the drugs trade is down to recreational drugs being criminalized - the Yanks have never gotten over the massive social damage done by Prohibition.

nicotine is carcinogenic and harmful to foetus
cannais/thc use pg is linked to LBW and prematurity
thc is secreted in breastmilk,passed to infant

If you grow it yourself and use it yourself when you're not pregnant, then I have absolutely no problem with it. Most people who use drugs do not grow or make it themselves though, which is why the drugs industry and the levels of crime associated with it are rising.

Paolo - not in england, no, but I have smoked weed bought from the Moroccan farmers on many occasions, was in Morocco tho.

I knew a woman who smoked weed during pregnancy.

She had killer hypermeisis. Approx 5 months pregnant she had a threatened miscarriage because she just couldn't keep any food, or even water down. Despairing, and expecting to lose the baby, she smoked a joint to calm down. And suddenly, all her symptoms subsided and she was able to eat. So she smoked weed the rest of her pregnancy.

Her son is a healthy, happy, well-adjusted young man.

I think what she did was right.

I looked into it, and the only studies that have been done on pregnant women smoking weed have shown it doesn't make any difference to the child- Jamaican study.

'over' development should read 'other' !

some fuckwits have no self control or moral fibre

knowing that cannabis is associated with increased risk of mental illness,drug induced psychosis.why woukld one smoke it pg?

Judge your arse right off. It's fucking horrible. Sorry for language but this topic makes me mad- you're carrying/abusing a tiny, defenseless person who can't stop you filling their immature little liver with all those toxins, let alone damage to brain and over development. I do not enjoy pregnancy because aside from the sickness and SPD it's a massive, boring sacrifice. But you do your time, grow up, end of. And I've enjoyed a few jazz fags in my time.

Judge your arse right off. It's fucking horrible. Sorry for language but this topic makes me mad- you're carrying/abusing a tiny, defenseless person who can't stop you filling their immature little liver with all those toxins, let alone damage to brain and over development. I do not enjoy pregnancy because aside from the sickness and SPD it's a massive, boring sacrifice. But you do your time, grow up, end of. And I've enjoyed a few jazz fags in my time.

Judge your arse right off. It's fucking horrible. Sorry for language but this topic makes me mad- you're carrying/abusing a tiny, defenseless person who can't stop you filling their immature little liver with all those toxins, let alone damage to brain and over development. I do not enjoy pregnancy because aside from the sickness and SPD it's a massive, boring sacrifice. But you do your time, grow up, end of. And I've enjoyed a few jazz fags in my time.

paolosgirl - all the weed that ever comes into this house is grown in a friends spare room. No propping up of evil industries here.

I guess the nicotine element isn't good (assuming they used tobacco too).

I will confess to a very small toke from time to time. My babies were 10 4, 9 6 and 10 4, all full-term.

But I guess heavy frequent use is a different thing.

I would wave my judgey pants for all to see whilst judging my bare arse off tbh.

There is so no need to smoke anything at all especially when growing a tiny human who has no choice to have what chemicals the mother has.

That poor baby - fancy putting headphones on a baby, now it's my turn to judge, but what a dick! (The trance music is a dumb idea, but I seriously doubt any connection with autism!)

My sd's oh smoked weed heavily for years and their little boy has been dx asd,mind you when the dad was babysitting he used to put earphones on the baby and play horrible electronic trance music to the child.I know nothing about autism but wonder if there could be a connection.

my sil did it.

her kids are very small - all.

i agree with paolo - which is ofcourse why it should be legalised and regulated

Yes, you are simplifying massively. The drug trade, whatever form the drugs take, supports criminals and their behaviour. It causes misery to local communities who have drug dealers living amongst them, is tied up with enforced prostitution, money laundering, other peoples dependency on the 'hard' drugs, and all sorts of other things. When you buy something from a dealer you support that, which is completely indefensible - unless of course you are buying directly and fairly from that Morroccan farmer, which I doubt.

And re the misery caused by the drug trade - absolutely but weed is not heroin, it's mainly grown in Morocco by farmers, sold fairly and squarely, brought over to europe by ferry (not in the stomachs of poor jamaican women) and it's not addictive in the way that other drugs are, it's a substance that should be legal in the way that alcohol is and adults should be able to make up their own minds on their own use (IMO). Or it's grown in the UK.

I know I'm simplifying massively but really - it's in a different league to the columbian cocaine trade or heroin.

I would think smoking weed would be a good idea during pregnancy, as it lowers blood pressure. Also, I can't imagine how playing around with brain chemicals will help while baby's brain is forming.

I'd have judged too. It amazes me what some people will do despite knowing it is likely to harm their unborn child.

LOL at idea of different degrees f judging.

A friend smoked weed during PG and was intending to use it during labour. She didn't get that far as had a premmie, but that was I'm pretty confident because of unrelated issues.

Actually in labour I don't think it is necessarily a bad idea, since the babies brain won't be doing any active formation at the time.

Would probably judge if heavy use the rest of the time though.

Cowwomanmoo
I agree with your POV. I'm not sure about using it for ms (can't imagine anything worse) but during labour it seems as good as anything. I felt stoned on G&A and one spliff won't do any damage at that point. I got a bit stoned once in my pg when I ate a tiny bit of hash and it was brilliant. Only the once though.

I don't see how you (not anyone in partic, just general) can say, "It never did me any harm" until you get to ripe old age. Who knows what's round the corner healthwise!

Also, it may not be definite in harming people, but it may contribute towards a pre-existing problem IYSWIM??

Friend is pregnant with her 3rd child now, she smoked fags and weed throughout all her 3 pregnancies.

I was p'eed off but not my place. I asked her in last pregnancy why she did'nt give it up and save money to buy some new clothes for herself after the birth she replied 'because I get more enjoyment from my weed and I deserve it carrying this around all day'

Each to their own but not for me I think it just defines a scummy mummy!

My friend smoked through her pregnancy. Not like a chimney but every so often. I choose not to. I also choose not to drink. I don't take parcetamol either and only take anti-sickness meds because M/S as been so horrendous. These are my choices however so whilst I may internally think 'i would not do that' i don't say anything because it is not my body or baby that is being affected and i don't think it is my place to say anything.

Hm, considering that smoking dope can raise your odds towards developing mental health issues, such as schizophrenia....I am not sure how good it is to do that in pg, and how it would affect the Fetus and raise the odds for them to develope mental health issues...

so, I possibly would judge on this, too....and I would love it if by judging yer ass off it would indeed shrink...now wouldn't that be nice....sigh...

Hopefully you grew it yourself, knew exactly where it came from and didn't fund any criminal activity.

Bollox,after rereading my last post,it almost makes sence but my dyslexic writting always has a hint of the 'casandra complex' about it.Honistly Im not stoned, I write this crappy all the time.(also new to netmums/fourms)

Hi
Witting this under different name.
I would advocate the use of pure (Not mixed with tobacco) at the start of pregnancy for bad morning sickness.
During the second and most of the third trimester I would recommend abstinence.
In the countdown too labour in the last couple of weeks for the actual physical pain of advanced pregnancy there's not much that can beat it.
As for labour pain relief, I put my extremely good birthing experience down to a carrot of the green stuff especially prepared for the occasion by a mate. I was 11 days over due, my child was 7 pounds and 10 years later, shows absolutely no physical problems and is fit and healthy.
In fact I am commended on there politeness and intelegance.
During labour After imbibing my pure cannabis carrot in a relaxing bath, I waddled into the hospital at about 10 at night, had gas and air+pethidine. No tearing no complication, birth at 7am.
I regret being open with MWs at the time as I was treated like a bloody junky after on the ward and baby was put under observation for non existent withdrawl, I also asked to take placenta home and had to run the gauntlet of having staff on the ward repeatedly come up and asked me If I was the one bringing my placenta home, and being laughed at to my face because of this.
The area I was living at the time in a large Caribbean community and it was a fairly excepted herbal remedy for morning sickness etc.
One of the healthcare workers postnataly that came round told me about attending several births in the area, where it was used as the soul pain releaf and personally couldent see a problem with it being used as such. She had researched it and there is no solid evidence of harm if take,(Like all medicines )In sensible and moderately and responsible amounts.
The link with premature birth is a fact, but that's if you tank it constantly all the way during pregnancy.
The womb actually has cannabis receptors and there is a marked increase in naturally ocuring cannabinoids in the body just before the onset of labour. Thats why it queen Victoria swore by it for menstrual cramps.

http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/directory/newsdetail.php?cat_id=&newsid=979&pointer=60

Most of the medical literature is inconclusive about harm in general in vitro due to its use.
I am due in several weeks time and I will not being going through it with out it.It has been used for century's for this purpose, and it is such a pity that such a amazing medication is denied to many people suffering from so many illnesses because some American senator with shares in Duponts chemicals corp in the 1930s wanted to wipe out the hemp industry.
I know I may be 'flamed' for this but i will mealy light labour carrot with it.
p.S Soz about dyslexea.(Not stoned)

moderation is key...i doubt a spliff on the weekend would hurt, but you shouldnt carry on as if not preg. its not being a party pooper, its giving your baby the best chance. OP was talking about heavy weed smoking. one doesnt function properly when smoking heavily.

I just sometimes wonder at all the things PG women are supposed to stop doing despite there being no actual proof that they are harmful - and how it's always things that PG women might enjoy, there's never any advice to the effect that they don't need to do so much housework...

SGB - because there is good reason to suspect it will adversely affect the fetus in utero. Not least because it is normally taken with tobacco.

It's hard to have clearcut evidence, because it would be unethical to do a controlled trial (i.e. to deliberately expose fetuses to cannabis, so you could observe the effect). But it seems reckless to take that as some kind of green light...

I'm not saying it's the worst thing you can do while pregnant (incidentally my mum gave birth to me while out of her tree on weed). But I do know that quite a lot of women underestimate/minimise the risks involved, and I don't think we should.

(oops: interesting frenchie spelling of dangerous)

No 9 months is not long, but I seem to recall PG hormones made me a little insane. Ok, quite a lot insane. (Well, you know I am exaggerating a bit. I didn't do anything illegal or dangerouse, but...it seemed like an awfully long time to me).

How refreshing to hear from someone like Ronaldhino (hope I spelt it right). We all know that alcohol and narcotics are not ideal for PG women, but many babies come out unscathed after their mothers smoke dpoe during their PGs. Not that I'm advocating here, but I know of many women who did (I grew up in a very lefty area) and none of the children concerned are anything less than wonderful.

So there.

Pregnancy is bad enough (well it was for me) so I'm with Ronaldhino, let's not judge. (After all we're not talking alcoholism or smack.)

I also wonder if (like canabis can make people paranoid/irrritable etc) the baby would have weird feelings....sort of fear/anxious whatever.

if it affects the babe or not isnt known, though as others have said, tobacco can cause premature birth/low birthweight.
best not to isnt it?
smoking in pregnancy or at any time does not promote good health.
always feel a bit funny seeing pregnant women smoking.
your judgement is reasonable!

Ok. Whilst I am well aware of the benefits of cannibis for people suffering from certain illnesess, I do not think there is any good reason for doing during pregancy.

My DS was exposed to dope in utero (not by me, he is adopted). He has learning difficulties. He also has several other issues that make his life quite difficult. Who knows if it was the dope or if the dope was just one of several factors. I cant see it would have been benificial though.

Dope today is very different from the dope of 10 years ago +. Skunk is v.strong and often laced with all kinds of crap. I wouldnt have smoked dope then whilst pregnant and wouldnt now.

Its only 9 mths out of a life, not long to give up smoking is it?

I know pavlov I was just wading in, in my judgy arse way I do think that though, about cannabis for the suffering.

Absolutely - which is why there is an argument for legalising it if there is a medical need only. Otherwise, if you choose to buy it from a dealer you should be aware of exactly what the industry that you are supporting stands for.

I know of two women who smoked weed regularly throughout pregnancy

Both had very premature, small birthweight babies.

Wouldn't ever choose this for my babies but still no judging from me because addiction is not to be taken lightly.

ilovedolly - i was making no assumptions on the rightness or wrongness or medical viability myself, just merely stating why some people might chose to smoke it.

I actually think that it should be allowed to sufferers of the various illnesses it has been proven to help but NOT to someone who is busy growing another human..........

Certain elements of cannabis can relieve symptoms of neusea and vomiting associated with morning sickness/hyperemesis (along with other symptoms of different illnesses) While it is not preferable to smoke it, medicinal cannabis is not legal in this country for this use, so some people who find it does work will chose to medicate, and are advised to not use tobacco to smoke.

Cannabis is used in medicinal form for cancer sufferers who are suffering from chemo induced sickness, although I beleive this is a trial/for research purposes at this stage.

However, while people may judge, which is the right and expectation of the human race, bear in mind it is an illegal drug which does have many health benefits as well as disadvantages, and that it might be for those benefits that some-one choses actively to use that drug, rather than for recreational purposes. (I am not suggesting the benefits outway the risks or vice versa, but it may be from a point of symptom releif that it used)

my SIL did with her 2 i think and I judged her but on ly from the comfort of my brain - not outloud.

She then went on to not vacinate her kids for fear of MMR / Autism - couldnt bear to put chemicals in their precious bodies. She still smokes fags daily....

I also judged her noisily in my head again - more fun that way.

She is plum.

I think it's supposed to alleviate morning sickness.

TBH I wouldn't risk it - there have been no studies and it affects the brain - a foetus' brain is developing - no-brainer really!

I think that although I used to like a bit of a smoke when I was younger I would be judging my arse off, through the floor and into Earth' central core if someone I knew told me they smoked weed during a preganancy. I tut at people who smoke cigarettes.

well there is strong evidence that smoking tobacco causes low birth weight etc so as that is the most common way of smoking it in this country there's a reason not to without getting into the possible effects of THC etc on a foetus.

SGB that is the general advice in pregnancy isn't it? That if there is no evidence to say it is ok, then best avoid. Especially something that is subject to debate rgarding health anyway.

Has anyone actually mentioned that as it is illegal then it simply IS wrong anyway? *stares at bottom hoping some will fall off*

WRT colluding with the evils of the drugs trade, cannibis is the least likely to involve exploitation of the developing world as lots of people grow it in their attics and sell it to their mates.
Also, hester, if there's no clearcut evidence, why does it have to be a bad idea? It might not be.

I know someone who smoked weed moderately during her pregnancy after a huge trauma happened. Her baby was small but bigger than her first when she didn't smoke weed or fags. My friend is only 6 stone something, so baby at 6.12 (39 wks) isn't that small IMO.

I only judged a tiny bit as she was having a terrible time and it was only moderately.

I shifted the odds to, well, nowhere by bieng proactive in my awareness and health choices.
Still ended up with nowt on many occassions.

No, endless, you can't guarantee a thing. But you can significantly shift the odds.

From memory I don't think the evidence is extensive or clearcut on cannabis use (quite hard to do a proper controlled trial, I would think) but it has to be a bad idea.

Actually, I'm with Paolosgirl - I think it's unethical to collude with the drugs industry. Which makes me pretty out of step with most of my peers, but it boggles me how thinking, socially aware people ignore the impact of their actions on millions in Colombia, Mexico, Afghanistan....

JUDGE, JUDGE..... this makes me apoplectic with rage!
Tell you why,
i cut out coffee, alcohol, lost 15% of my body weight through eating more than 5 a day, multivits &folic acid blah blah blah for the months preceding and during ttc.

Then had 4 mcs one after the other.
SO i have now heavily reintroduced chocolate and decaf coffee back into the bosom of my fat ass.

There is no rhyme or reason to any of it.

You can be as extreme as me, or can relax a bit, or completely abuse your own body and that of an innocent other, and still cannot guarantee a single bloody thing.

sigh.

Thanks Ronaldinhio. We don't have a great relationship, tbh. I grew up, joined a church, went to college/uni, got married, now have 3 DC.

She grew up, jacked school, moved in with an abusive partner at 16/17, had a miscarriage at 17, then lived with another guy who didn't want to marry her, knows all the 'bad boys' in the village, knows all the drug dealers, although not involved with them directly. Her last 'partner' lived with her until she said she wanted to declare their status to housing benefit/income support. Now he lives in a static caravan, & she goes to see him several times per week.

She resents me, and my life is rubbing her nose in it. She wants what I have - stability, a man who loves me, is a committed father, not much money but work as a team.

She claims to hate me regularly, but I am the one she comes to in crisis. My parents both have depression, and rely on me a lot for support, but they can't cope with her visits because she is always ranting about income support/CSA or her situation, or telling them about the latest fight/drug bust/crime in the village. They can't cope with their own situation, let alone other people's .

She is desperately unhappy, but can't see that her behaviour is pushing people away, and blames me. I hope she gets her heart's desire, but I can't see how a man that won't support her with one child will support her with two.

I judge anyone who supports the drug trade and all the crime, misery and terrible effects it has on communities that go along with it.

But I would also judge my arse off (love that expression!) if I saw a pregnant woman doing that to her baby.

I gave up smoking both tobacco and weed as soon as I knew I was pregnant.

So - I'm on the side of the group of the small-arsed mums
(who can be found standing slightly to the side of the pile of their own freshly-fallen arses)

The only person I know who smoked weed v heavily while pregnant also had a premature baby - 26 weeks - and about 450g weight iirc. She would have been smoking it "neat" too - pure grass, no tobacco - as over here (NZ) that's how it's smoked.

I don't know if the baby had any long term health issues but I wonder if there is a link between smoking dope and premature birth - quite a few people on this thread seem to have known this to happen.

When I was first pg (having smoked a lot of dope in the preceding years, including the very early weeks of the NB unplanned pregnancy), I asked my community mw about the dangers of marijuana in pregnancy. She said that she'd rather see a pg woman smoking dope than smoking tobacco (they don't always go together, although of course they often do), and that some midwives are quite relaxed about dope use in small quantities cos it helps to relax the mother.

I was a bit about this - surely psychoactive substances can't be a good thing when the foetus's brain is forming? - but she was distinctly unbothered.

I would have the smallest bum in the WORLD.

Maybe.

Im pretty sure there is no other side to this one.

If only judging could actually reduce size of arse, Id have the smallest, nicest bum in London..

I stopped smoking as soon as I found out I was pregnant, and judge my arse off at anyone who doesn't too!
Well, not really, but loving 'judged my arse off' too

I think the worrying part of it would be the social stuff that (not always, but often) goes along with it. Well, health reasons too actually. I am feeling surprisingly not as judgey as usual on this, all my current revision is making me appreciate positionality or such like

If I judge my arse off while I'm pregnant will my baby come out all judgy?

I'm so sorry to hear about your sister and her lo/los, it must be very difficult for her

Just checking...

My sister smoked weed through almost her entire pregnancy. Her partner walked out on her at 30+6 weeks pregnant, and she decided to give up the weed. I went with her to the doctors to ask for help for her.

That night her waters broke . She gave birth at 33+3 weeks. Her little boy was thankfully unscathed, but was small for dates, etc.

Now she is pregnant with his second child, still unsupported, other than CSA. I suspect he feels he can't support her (despite them being 'together' but not living as a family) because he spends about £80 per week on weed! as well as his £20 per week on cigarettes.

She told me last week that she 'occasionally' smokes weed, and that she finds it very hard if a good friend or partner has weed and she doesn't. I take it from that that she is smoking weed while pregnant

I judge, tbh. I can't really cope with the fact that she smokes in pregnancy, let alone weed.

In fact, I find it pretty sad that she is pregnant again when she isn't even getting real support for her first child, although of course the baby is a blessing. She just desperately wants them to be a family

I'm so fucking bored judging pregnant women that I'd probably have lit and held it for her...

I have no idea of the health risks associated. I imagine they aren't ideal but nothing seems to be now and I can't be arsed anymore.

I just tried my best in my circs and I'm sure they are doing the same

I think the risks are the same as those associated with smoking cigarettes, although weed smokers do tend to inhale smoke less frequently than cigarette smokers.

So yes, I would judge, but no more than I would judge a pregnant woman smoking a cigarette.

.

I judged, sister done it when pregnant all the way through 2 pregnancies'

She had small birth weight babies...dunno if the weed was the cause?!

If you're not supposed to smoke tobacco when preggers, why would it be okay to smoke dope?
I'm off to watch George Gently anyway

SIL baby was also tiny, not premature but very small. It might have nothing to do with it though.

well it has to be a bad idea

i would judge too

[reminds self to use ? properly]

Did you discuss it with them. Did they try to justify their behaviour at all? I would be interested to know why they felt it was ok?

Purely anecdotal, but I did know a couple who were real dope heads & both smoked weed throughout the mother's pregnancy. Baby was premature & tiny and had quite severe medical problems. Same was true for the baby of a heavy drinker I knew.

I must judge my arse too, because surely it cannot be a great idea to do either when you're pregnant?

My SIL did this when pregnant. I judged too.

have no real input on the weed thing, but must agree - I am going to be using "judged my arse off" on a frequent basis now!

Cos I do

I would have thought it's probably not such a great idea

am remaining aloof on this [battle weary]

but top marks for "judged my arse off"

That's it really.

A couple of pregnant women I've met lately have been quite heavily into smoking weed throughout.

I have to admit I judged my arse off, although I don't know much about the dangers of doing this in pregnancy so maybe I was making an incorrect judgement?

Just wondered what other's gut reaction to seeing this would be?