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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alternatives to union membership

11 replies

JellySaurus · 08/04/2024 11:39

As the unions seem to be totally in thrall to trans ideology, GC employees need some other, more reliable, source of representation and legal support should they be penalised for practicing their protected belief or speaking up in favour of common sense, compassion and safeguarding - oh, and actual law.

I have seen Edapt mentioned on MN for school staff. Has anybody signed up with them or used their support?

Could we collate a list of such organisations, who they are aimed at, and users' experiences with them?

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ArabellaScott · 08/04/2024 11:49

Generally, ACAS are pretty good for advice:

https://www.acas.org.uk/

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 11:55

Was just think about this.

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 11:55

Thinking

Abeona · 08/04/2024 11:55

Do you work in the public sector? SEEN (Sex Equality and Equity Network) offers representation/ support to GC workers?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-staff-networks/seen-network

Really worth getting involved if you do. You could contact ACAS and ask for advice — although the only ACAS person I know talks about people being born in the wrong body...

Sex Equality and Equity Network (SEEN)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-staff-networks/seen-network

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 11:57

NSEAD is for art teachers though I feel primary staff could join. They're too small to get too political though I watch them like a hawk.

Someone I know found them extremely effective when she needed them.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 08/04/2024 11:58

I’ve heard that the Free Speech Union are pretty good.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 08/04/2024 12:00

I second FSU membership

mrshoho · 08/04/2024 14:15

Watching and reading this with interest. I've had a look at Edapt following recommendation on another thread. They do appear impartial but I'm wary after the experiences with Unison. There are so many of my colleagues now not in a union at a time when we really do need representation.

ExpatSchmexpat · 10/04/2024 10:42

I'm not in UK but when i was fired, illegally (pregnant) i used my legal insurance to fight my claim (which i won). Do you have something like that in the UK? I later joined a union so i don't have legal insurance now but the self ID law is coming in to my country so i am reconsidering my union membership, since i am going to assume that my union is fully "captured".

Tomatotater · 26/04/2025 11:16

I'm sorry to resurrect this thread from a year ago, but I was looking for the answer to this question, and there are already some links on it. Some people said they were leaving UNISON because of their TWAW stance and because they have allowed a transwoman to stand for election in one of their women only seats. I work for a local authority, am in UNISON and I think they may be the only game in town. I was thinking of going union free, which I've never been before, because I believed in the Trades Union movement, but they seem to have stopped caring about women or employee rights in the workplace.

rebmacesrevda · 26/04/2025 11:32

Tomatotater · 26/04/2025 11:16

I'm sorry to resurrect this thread from a year ago, but I was looking for the answer to this question, and there are already some links on it. Some people said they were leaving UNISON because of their TWAW stance and because they have allowed a transwoman to stand for election in one of their women only seats. I work for a local authority, am in UNISON and I think they may be the only game in town. I was thinking of going union free, which I've never been before, because I believed in the Trades Union movement, but they seem to have stopped caring about women or employee rights in the workplace.

Edited

Good question. I'm not with Unison, but when I asked my union for help years ago they declined, saying I didn't have a case. I instructed a solicitor myself, and I won without too much struggle. I've also met some fairly spineless union reps over the years, which doesn't instil much hope. Having done it before, I'm fairly confident in challenging an employer without union support. The main issue for me would be legal costs; I know this would be covered by some insurance policies but have never looked into it. One of many items on my to-do list!

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