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*Trigger warning: contains disturbing information* Dana Rivers Is the Story the Media Doesn't Want You to Read

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 17/12/2022 17:32

This post is free to read and not behind a paywall, and I recommend you read it. Mandy's gone to great efforts to dig into what actually happened.

I'd normally post excerpts, but everything she's written is relevant, and it's also too disturbing to put on MN directly.

mandystadtmiller.substack.com/p/rabbitholed-78-dana-rivers-is-the

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CompleteGinasaur · 17/12/2022 18:27

Absolutely agree, OP, it would be baffling in any sane era that these appalling murders and the resultant court case are not all over the front pages. Given where we are it's not surprising that it's being suppressed, but I think a knowledge of it would be massively useful to anyone who wants a stomach-turning example of the inevitable results of this malignant narcissistic misogyny. David Warfield/Dana Rivers has always seemed to me to be the epitome of what is wrong with the idea that transition works in any way, shape or form. This horrific crime could never have been committed by a woman.

And huge thanks to Mandy Stadtmiller and particularly Kara Dansky for their herculean efforts to keep this in the public eye. I await the sentencing with great interest - but zero optimism.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 17/12/2022 18:38

This man used to appear on talk shows. He was a minor celebrity media and prominent activist. His pivot to murdering three people should be front page news. Why isn't it?

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MMBaranova · 17/12/2022 18:53

How disturbing. The fiction excerpts were heavy going.

Thank you for posting.

picklemewalnuts · 17/12/2022 19:06

Gosh that's shocking.

WarriorN · 17/12/2022 19:09

Exceptionally disturbing, the TW is needed.

Jon Ronson covered the closing of Mich fest in his so called balanced analysis of the gender debate on radio 4, daytime airing.

Enormously glaring ommission there Jon.

WarriorN · 17/12/2022 19:17

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 17/12/2022 18:38

This man used to appear on talk shows. He was a minor celebrity media and prominent activist. His pivot to murdering three people should be front page news. Why isn't it?

We all know why.

Icecreamandapplepie · 17/12/2022 19:35

Heaven help us all.

I couldn't read it all but I fear for my children, I really do.

Stomacharmeleon · 17/12/2022 20:00

He deserves to rot in a male prison where he belongs...
I don't think I will ever forget reading that article.

Abhannmor · 17/12/2022 20:24

An awful story and very upsetting. I'm not surprised Ronson left it out of his documentary. It would upset his ' neutral on the side of the TRAs ' position which he has worked so hard to achieve.

Boiledbeetle · 17/12/2022 20:27

That man really hates women doesn't he. I'm gobsmacked this story hasn't had more attention.

I getting so sick of these "that never happens" events that just keep on happening.

How many women have to die, have to be raped, have to be threatened, have to have their right to privacy trampled over before those that are firmly going around with their fingers stuck in their ears and their eyes closed to what is happening see that violent deranged men are using the cover of trans to gain access to places, spaces and women that they shouldn't be able to access. Whether these men truly are trans or not doesn't matter to the women that are being abused and killed by them.

Men however they present to the world should not now or ever be able to access female only spaces.

This man didn't like the fact that women had something he as a man couldn't access so he did everything he could in order to access it. And even then it wasn't enough for this evil arsehole.

Show me a man who says he's a women and I'll show you a man that's a liar.

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