17yo transmale child

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This is quite interesting

newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/transgender-teen-ontario

"Kian was a tomboy who hated wearing dresses and preferred hunting in the woods over shopping at the mall. Kian said he has known his whole life that he was in the wrong body."

"The first time Kian heard the term transgender, he was nine years old. His fraternal twin sister, Kirstyn, told him about a news report on a girl who transitioned to being a boy. Kian immediately wondered if he could do that, and began scouring the internet for anything to explain what he was feeling."

Kian came out as male aged 13, though appears to have presented as a girl with long hair right up to this.

The letter reads like a pretty typical 13 year old's letter, but with '"I was born with a female body but a male mind" continuing "I can't see myself growing up to be a woman or a mother I just can't." and "There is gender therapists we can see and they can really help me become the man I am. There is also hormones and other things to help me feel more comfortable in my own skin but we don't need to rush talking about that yet."

The doctors appear to have disagreed with that.

"A team of doctors at the Children's Hospital of Eeastern Ontario assessed Kian. They concluded his gender dysphoria was so intense that he needed to be treated as soon as possible. Within a few months, Kian was on hormone blockers to prevent him from going further into puberty. His periods ended and his breasts stopped growing. He soon started taking testosterone to develop masculine characteristics.

Over the next three years, Kian underwent two surgeries at CHEO — one to remove his breasts and one to remove his uterus. "

'“I can, you know, take my shirt off in the summer at the skate park. I can do what I want, and with the [hysterectomy], it was life-changing," he said.

When he turns 18, he can get reconstructive surgery to fully transition.'

Apparently Kian is now dating best friend Morgan, though

"He said one of the refrains that was going around was that "me and Morgan were lesbians.” Kian said he never held a grudge against these nameless accusers, "

Some indication of why 'lesbian' might be deemed an 'accusation' is perhaps that it seems to be quite a religious area with over 95% of Westmeath residents identifying as Christian, as against around 60% for Canada as a whole.

It makes me think of being a teen - one tended to have 'intense' feelings with potentially lasting consequences, but hysterectomy and double mastectomy was certainly never an option.

"Male" mind again

It's so sad.

Why was it all so rushed? If the child said they wanted to take their time, what possible reason could the doctors have had to rush everything through? “Do no harm” sigh...

"A team of doctors at the Children's Hospital of Eeastern Ontario assessed Kian. They concluded his gender dysphoria was so intense that he needed to be treated as soon as possible. Within a few months, Kian was on hormone blockers to prevent him from going further into puberty. His periods ended and his breasts stopped growing. He soon started taking testosterone to develop masculine characteristics..

Makes the human body and human experience sound like heavy gaming - choose your image, just switch the bits, everything will be all right. Never mind real life and biology.

Over the next three years, Kian underwent two surgeries at CHEO — one to remove his breasts and one to remove his uterus. "

But this is not a game. You cannot go back and undo that.

It's all stereotypes isn't it?

Kian was a tomboy who hated wearing dresses and preferred hunting in the woods over shopping at the mall.
Stereotypes.

Children's clinics are seeing exponential growth in demand for treatment from teens who don't identify as the sex they were born with.
What does this mean? Stereotypes.

"The truth is I am transgender female to male, this means that I was born with a female body but a male mind," he wrote.
A male mind????

One of the first things Kian did after he came out was cut off his long blond hair.
Is it illegal for girls to have short hair now - or for boys to have long hair?

It will never cease to amaze me that a teenager can “choose” chemical and surgical sterilization, but I know of so many women in Canada (myself included) who are repeatedly denied semi-permanent or permanent birth control because “we can’t know what we will want later”. I was able after much calling around able to get an IUD in my 20s, but it was not until I was 30 that anyone took me seriously about not wanting children ever and I could start on track to get a rival. When I started researching prophylactic mastectomies due to hereditary cancer in my 30s, I had so many professionals exercising their duties to ensure I really understood the consequences of my choice (surgical risks, infection risks, never being able to breastfeed, potential of getting breast cancer anyway) it took me almost two years to get from first doctor visit to surgical table.

But you know, a teenage girl who prefers hunting over dresses and can’t see growing up to be a mother or a woman (when many teenagers can’t imagine being adults), is fast tracked to chemical dependency and surgical removal of healthy body parts.

I looked Kian's IG and this bit from the article seems to be slightly inaccurate "Kian came out in May, went on his first date with Morgan in June, and by November, they were officially together".

The IG suggests that Kian came out in May (by changing name and cutting hair), and they were officially together in June, by November there's at least eight 'my true love' type selfies together.

I don't quite understand the processes involved with identifying your partner as male when they previously identified as female, if the only thing they've done up to that point is cut their hair and change their name.

Perhaps it's a mental thing for some people who identify as straight rather than bi or lesbian ? But the metaphysics of 'this person is now in my mind male following a haircut and name change whereas in the very recent past I identified them solely as female' seem beyond me.

It's obviously different if they've gone through lots of surgery and have a beard and etc but the basic transubstantiation confuses me.

As a woman, with a daughter, I am bloody terrified at the prospect of UK legislation allowing men to self-identify as women. Because men have male biology and not female biology. And female biology is the reason women are oppressed. By men.

No.

I say No to the men's rights activists.

The effect of testosterone on female bodies never ceases to amaze me. Irreversible changes.

And yet, every "transboy" seems to crave testosterone or "T" as they seem to refer to it as some sort of miracle cure for whatever problems they have. It's not, it can't be.

This female has now had irreversible drugs and surgery rushed on her, before she's even had a chance to work out who she is - And is infertile. Who among us knew who they really were at 13? Who would want to be held to the emotions we felt at 13? And of course, the risk that people are using it (even sub-consciously) as a way to cure the gay.

I saw a devastating account on twitter recently - came across it in viewing TRA tweets.

A 19 yr old trans boy. In jan 18, this was a female, with shoulder length hair, make up, and tweeting pics of herself as a female. V attractive. Has a boyfriend. Talking about getting a "feminist tattoo".

In Aug 18 - a tweet saying she had been struggling with gender identity for a while now, and was trans.

In October 18 - tweets that s/he's v happy and comfortable in a binder.

In late 18/early 19 tweets several times that s/he feels sick and wants to die.

I have never seen a clearer case of ROGD. What is happening to our young girls? What is this ideology doing to them?

Am I the only person to wonder at mastectomy & hysterectomy being performed at a children's hospital FFS?

The speed with which this happened is terrifying. No boyish young girl is safe, at least not in Canada and the USA. At least here we have NHS waiting list and with GIDS being under scrutiny and Carl Heneghan on the case I hope clinicians will have a bit more caution. But any parent of what used to be known as a Tom boy must beware.

Jesus H Christ. A hysterectomy and mastectomy at under 17. This is awful. I truly hope that these kids will sue the shit out of the doctors when they are adults.

‘I can’t face growing up as a woman’. Growing up as a woman should mean nothing more than growing up. Being a woman does not mean being a mother. It doesn’t mean being caring or nurturing. It doesn’t mean wearing certain clothes. This is the harm that gender stereotype bullshit causes to young people. It’s not just TRAs- society as a whole should feel deeply ashamed of endorsing gender stereotypes constantly. This is why we have young people feeling they can only be happy if they have surgery.

This is the factsheet on gender identity from the children's hospital.

www.cheo.on.ca/uploads/Gay,%20Lesbian%20and%20Bisexual%20Youth/Gender%20Identity.pdf

Surgeons do not perform gender reassignment surgeries on youth under 18. When youth reach adulthood, they can be referred to adult services.

So do mastectomies and hysterectomies not count as 'gender reassignment surgeries'? Why are they being performed on teenage girls with healthy bodies if not for the purpose of gender reassignment?

I couldn't read that whole factsheet because it was too disturbing. What the hell is going on in Canada?

Iused2BanOptimist
No boyish young girl is safe
You are right.

And it sickens me.

Christ. That is appalling.

Kian sounds an awful lot like me as a youngster. Not 'feminine' (whatever that means), liked stereotypically male subjects, no desire to be a mother (I still don't) and I had short hair. I have ASD. I never considered that I ought to be a boy or remove my womb! It's hard enough as an adult woman to convince medics to sterilise you (still not managed that). This is extremely worrying. I hadn't even finished growing height-wise at 20, never mind 17!

No boyish young girl is safe, indeed.