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*crossover

It was the dense comment that annoyed tbf. AF I will let you off if you tell me if a cupcake is really just a cupcake, or some sort of FWR code cos I'm feeling paranoid now

I was going to give you some guff about cupcakes being a euphemism for breasts but I would be lying, so I won't.

finish reading the pole thread, it goes off in to some tangent about the passe(ness) that's not a word of cupcakes.

Keepin' it light. Like a true cupcake should be.

I stand by my comment which referred to those who seemingly do not understand/or do not wish to understand how normalising an activity which is almost solely related to the sex industry in the UK is damaging to other women and girls.

It is a very good thing.
When we have as many threads under feminism as weight loss we may be starting to get somewhere.

And maybe in the distant future there will be none at all because everyone will have got there! Like, I dunno, we don't need an anti-slavery topic.

Off topic I guess, but I recently read that there are more people in slavery today then in all of human history.

I realised that was sadly a bad example after I'd hit post

Do not worry grimma for I am the Queen of posting and then thinking.

feminism section had a fractious period dominated by strident posters
that has largely resolved
and its really patronising to say people could do with learning.are you Guru to impart to the unlearned

It's only patronising to say people could do with learning about something if it's a subject they already know a lot about or a subject that has no relevance to them.

If it's a subject that they don't have much knowledge of and is relevant to them then it's not patronising to say they could do with learning it. It's true.

Yep. I know nothing about astrophysics, medicine, investment banking and football. If I was interested in it, I would have to do a lot of learning. I've been a feminist for 20 years and I'm still learning. Every day. That's sort of the point of life, we learn something new all the time.

I think most humans on the planet know that feminism just means treating men and women equally under the law, at work and at home. It is a dead easy concept. you don't need a PhD in it. It's about if he plays golf for 4 hours on Sundays she gets to go running or do her hobby on Saturday for 4 hours. If she does 3 hours washing he does 3 hours cooking etc etc Equal pay for work of equal value too.

and here we are on "mumsnet".....

'By parents, for parents' ...but still overwhelmingly 'mums'...which is one of the reasons feminism is so relevant.

Xenia - not just men and women, boys and girls too, of course. Particularly obvious near xmas the inequalities of how boys and girls are considered.

the patrionising bit is those who feel its their role to impart to the unlearned
share your opinion,have lively riposte,but dont kid yourself on you're necessarily helping with learning
thats is what was problematic wiith FWR before. the strident belief people had about their role and apparent need for learning in others.it sets up a default of entitlement,those who feel they must impart certain opinion and assume others need learning.mn isnt a tutorial based degree,its online opinion.

I did occasionally feel that there were one or two people who believed that people who diverged from their particular creed needed re-educating.

that was the rub,the preachy patronising tone of strident posters educating the unlearned
it all got v dictatorial and deviance from ascribed stance was mra,antifeminist

[ I used to mind asking basic questions and being told that the FWR boards were not there to educate people. I like areas of obscurity and confusion for me being untangled by them wot get it.
Then I could choose to agree or disagree with the interpretation, but at least I had a starting point.