Anyone else finding the BearFaced campaign deeply depressing?

(41 Posts)
tweetytwitcher Mon 05-Nov-12 11:02:57

Specifically the way that it treats the concept of an un-made-up woman as so unusual, almost like a freak-show. Something outrageous that you do to raise money, while at the same time the women involved blather on about empowerment.

WomanlyWoman Sat 17-Nov-12 22:41:21

thanks doctrine, agree the transfers were cute

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Fri 16-Nov-12 17:28:21

Love your last line, trisha

"I just wish they'd thought it through, then thought of something better."

I'd have been quite happy to buy and wear the bear transfer, a subtler way of acknowledging CIN than the bear ears headband and also unisex.

WomanlyWoman Fri 16-Nov-12 13:49:56

I have just mined this thread for my latest blog post, hope no-one minds. (it's here if anyone's interested)

Just in the Post Office now and seen a poster up. Urgh. And yes, the woman is clearly wearing makeup. How very offensive that not wearing makeup is so weird it's worthy of sponsorship.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Wed 07-Nov-12 22:27:03

Yeah, true (though I bet they get it all as freebies!)

No flaming here. I don't wear makeup every day but I do wear it sometimes, and so what?

I agree with you, the issue IMO is that it shouldn't be a sponsorship issue.

doctrine - oh, but I bet those particular women are usually kitted out in the really pricey stuff, no?

I am a rubbish judge too, as DH has a full beard.

I expect I shall get flamed for this but I wear make-up every day. And not even the prospect of raising money for charity could persuade me to go out in public without it.

I agree though that not wearing make-up shouldn't be such a bizarre concept that it's worthy of sponsorship.

rosabud Wed 07-Nov-12 20:27:55

I have never liked wearing make-up and, as I've got older it just seems to look worse and worse on me, is that something to do with my skin ageing or the fact that I am prepared to waste less and less time slapping it all on so I probably rush it and it looks worse? (Actually, I have a similar attitude to shopping as I get older - that was all rather a lot of fun when I was young and had a "perfect figure" and lots of money to spend on myself but it seems to have become rather less appealing these days!) However, I always wear make-up for work. I work in an environment where some women choose to dress relatively smartly and some dress relatively casually (although nearly all men dress smartly). I choose to dress relatively smartly for various reasons. Many of the women who dress causally don't wear make-up but all of the women who dress smartly wear it. I think that suggests that "serious" women wo are dressing smartly (ie women on a par with men) can only achieve that category if they are wearing make-up. This is a really depressing notion and one which I wish I had the courage to stand up against - but I don't.

Incidentally, what about hair? Do you remember 'Working Girl,' the 80s film about women being taken seriously as business women rather than secerataries? The best friend tells the ambitious seceratary, "you have to have serious hair" so she gets her frizzy 80 locks coiffed and bobbed. Would that still be relevant today? Sadly, my hair has never been serious..............

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Wed 07-Nov-12 20:22:25

Not sure about cost LRD, DH spends bucketloads on whizzy superpowered quadrillion bladed razors. But given all my makeup goes off before I fin ish it (special occasions only), I might not be the best judge.

StarsGhostTail Wed 07-Nov-12 14:12:37

GRrrrrr - [Cross bear face]

For those of us with teenage daughters who get teased, because they refuse to break the school rules and wear make up, this is just wrong.

It doesn't make you less grown up and less of a woman to not want to paint yourself every morning.

I like getting dressed up and putting on make up, when the occasion warrants it. Just I'd expect DH to look presentable and wear shoes!

WomanlyWoman Wed 07-Nov-12 13:44:39

OatyBeatie
...it is offensive and stupid. And those gallery pictures have so many beauty-enhancing techniques (as well as choosing mostly young and very beautiful women) that they are calculated to twist the body-hate knife into ordinary women just a little bit deeper.

This.

SomersetONeil Wed 07-Nov-12 09:25:37

This just proves how far we have to go...

I often find myself arguing with eejits people on here who think that women have it exactly the same as men, and that there are no expectations on women that there aren't on men. Basically, that we should stop complaining and be happy with the status quo.

I honestly do believe that it takes someone making a proper stand to totally eschew all the beauty and grooming standards that most women accept as part and parcel of life. So not just make-up-free, but no hair removal, no dying hair, etc, etc. I certainly don't have the guts to do that, and take my hat off to women who do.

This just proves it. I mean, for heaven's sake... Here is a group of absolutely beautiful women, and they're still not fit for public consumption, unless they're touched up and enhanced, smoothed out, tweaked and photo-shopped.

I mean, God forbid that we should be exposed to an actual woman's bare face. hmm Come on chaps, that really is taking things just that little bit too far.

Yep, it really is time to down tools. Feminism has achieved all its aims. We're all equal now...

OatyBeatie Wed 07-Nov-12 08:09:40

I hadn't heard of this campaign before. Agree that it is offensive and stupid. And those gallery pictures have so many beauty-enhancing techniques (as well as choosing mostly young and very beautiful women) that they are calculated to twist the body-hate knife into ordinary women just a little bit deeper.

On the upside, I'm not running a marathon. In fact, like Eddie Izzard's daily marathons for charity a while back, I am not running a marathon every day between now and Children in Need Day. You can sponsor my not doing anything at justbollocks.com.

Ooh, good point, we should blame Boots. And make them stump up money.

That's made me think the other reason I dislike this so much - makeup is shedloads more expensive than shaving kit, isn't it (which is the blokey equivalent).

HoneyDragon Mon 05-Nov-12 13:23:52

Don't Boots and other places that sell make up donate and raise pots more that a few die hard slap wearers leaving the trowel at home for the day?

Anniegetyourgun Mon 05-Nov-12 13:17:57

Damn, cross-posted. What LaundryFairy said.

blush <<< picture of me wearing blusher

Anniegetyourgun Mon 05-Nov-12 13:16:40

Snatch, you've got it on its head. We don't owe you because you're not wearing a peacock costume; you owe CiN for the privilege of being seen in public not wearing one. Er, I think.

Someone would have to pay me to go to the trouble of putting make-up on. I do it for job interviews and probably would if ever invited to the Queen's garden party, but that's about it. They'd get short shrift if they tried to charge me for not wearing it. Like the people did who wanted to charge me for wearing my own jeans on a Friday, like I did every Friday anyway.

Here's a radical idea. Why don't they try sponsoring people to do something useful?

LaundryFairy Mon 05-Nov-12 12:27:43

Whole thing seems ludicrous to me - like it is meant to bean an act of heroic bravery for a woman to go out in public without makeup! Aren't there other, more useful things that we could be sponsoring people to do?

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Mon 05-Nov-12 12:24:16

Maybe they should just be getting women to buy & wear their fake pawprint tattoos & make the money from that.

PickledFanjoCat Mon 05-Nov-12 12:19:33

It's daft. I don't know hardly anyone who wears make up regularly I wear it about two or three times a year.

I should volunteer to wear make up for charity.

EmpressOfTheSevenRomanCandles Mon 05-Nov-12 12:16:22

It's the implication that not wearing makeup is somehow radically against the norm that bothers me. And I know that for plenty of women wearing makeup is the norm, but that's not the point - they're equally valid choices.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 05-Nov-12 12:13:49

I will also not be wearing a peacock costume, eating a live aardvark or cooking over a candle on Friday. Same old, same old.

You all owe me £1 for each of the above, though.

Alameda Mon 05-Nov-12 12:01:40

I might, if it didn't make me look like a man in drag?

DioneTheDiabolist Mon 05-Nov-12 12:00:08

Loads of women wear tonnes of slap. I have worked with quite a few. Thing is, after very little time in my company they tend not to bother.

Dione the Diabolist: looking like a homeless person since 1993.grin

UptoapointLordCopper Mon 05-Nov-12 11:57:05

Not me. In fact I'm increasingly thinking that this real life business is overrated.

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