PGCE support thread(57 Posts)
Sorry if there already is one of these, but I couldn't find one and thought others might also appreciate a place to get support, share tips and let off some steam.
So, I'll start... I am doing a secondary PGCE and am currently on my first placement. School seems nice and I have taken a couple of full lessons so far. However, I am getting somewhat demoralised as even though my lessons were not perfect by any means (I am still learning though ffs), my mentor only ever seems to go through things I need to work on to improve my lessons next time but never actually mentions anything which might have gone well (or even ok).
So, am I being oversensitive? Should I just take the fact that he only ever mentions things to improve as a hint to just give up now? or what? I ended up going to the toilets to cry after my last meeting despite feeling that my lesson prior to the meeting was reasonable (not brilliant, but not too bad considering had never met the group before and was teaching in a room I had never been in before).
Sorry, that is such a long whingy post, but the constant focusing on what needs to be improveds without even mentioning even small things which might be ok, is really getting to me.
I have a pair of students at the moment - preliminary visits at the moment, then main placement later (B.Ed 1s)
Presumably your teachers went to the mentor training at your university? The one thing that stood out for me was how important it is as a mentor to be welcoming and supportive and that all feedback really should start with the things that went well. Not rocket science, is it? Sounds like your teachers drifted off at that point in the training. Not good.
My students are LOVELY and a pleasure to have around. They're keen, enthusiastic, helpful and pro-active.
Hi all, if any of you are still around! Sorry for the absence, mainly due to a work overload.
However, I'm now in the last week of first placement and wondered how everyone else was getting on?
After the last few posts, I think I finally nailed discipline (with the current classes, which means it may well be crap at the next school) and had some fab lessons and really good obs. However, I just had my summative report meeting with my mentor and am back to pissed off again. He marked me as "good" against four of the eight teacher standards and "satisfactory" against the other four, whilst saying in the written comments what a good job I'd done and whilst also saying in his oral feedback that in cases where it was borderline between the two, he'd put the lower grade. Then, because he marked me satisfactory for 4 standards, he marked the first placement as satisfactory overall, saying "no-one should get a good or outstanding in their first placement, you can't because you've only been doing it for 7 weeks".
Now, I understand the last comment, but, I had to write my own schemes of work, current teachers at the school have asked to use my lesson plans for future lessons and both my university tutor and the ITE coordinator at my school graded the lessons they observed as good.
I think he has issues with the fact that he received a good grading in his last obs and therefore won't give me the same, but am really pissed off given that all comments were positive etc and in his own words "you've done a brilliant job and fitted right in to the department" .
Grrr. I know it's a pass, but still, grrr.
Just popped in to see how you guys are getting on this term?
I got QTS at end of Nov, a few days supply in the same school in Dec ... then landed the first job I applied for! Amazing luck. It's close to home, the age range I wanted and a lovely school. Having to do the extra placement really worked out to be the best thing for me.
There are two PGCE-ers in my school. right now, going through the trials and tribulations.
Chin up everyone - it is so worth it in the end!
For my part, I am waiting to start my second placement now, so I have a nice easy university-based couple of weeks (when I should be working on my assignments, but am actually using the time to catch up with dc's) before placement 2 starts.
Still miffed over the end of placement 1, but hey ho. Never mind.
Otherwise I'm just trying to get started on some job applications. The other scary bit - getting a job at the end!
How is your NQT going?
I just wondered if any of us student teachers/nqt's are still around?
Currently in my second placement school and HATING it. School is so-called "outstanding", but lots of box-ticking, "how can we be outstanding today" type training sessions. Lots of focusing on, "you should do this to get an outstanding observation" and lots of arrogant children who are much less likeable than those at the last school (far from middle-class arrogant).
I won't be applying for teaching jobs after this. I'm just aiming to get through the course atm.
(NC'd Eco here)
Don't get demoralised by the box ticking . It's just how that school does it. Every school is different, which is why everyone says to visit before applying for jobs if you can. Chin up - enjoy some time for your self over Easter and take the positives from this school. It's all great experience, even the box ticking and dealing with arrogant pupils.
I'm exhausted after my first full NQT term but loving it. The "Oh! I get it!" moments mean SO much more when it's your own class. I've got some demanding parents but they seem to like me so far. We're "Good" with a Head pushing for "Outstanding" but it seems to be in a very supportive way.
You WILL get there! All schools are not the same. Eat chocolate, drink wine, sleep and look after yourself.
Thanks. I think it's just the "this isn't going to end" aspect. Good to know there is light at the other side.
Definitely relying too much on chocolate though - it is doing my waistline no good!!!!
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