YouOldTinsellySlag
Sat 08-Dec-12 22:47:51
I mean she went to prison for stealing after being too poor to give the kids more than one fishfinger each, and couldn't make the rent or buy food.
This time round she is spending all day working for Tanya for tips only, just so she can save for a Christmas Tree which must cost less than £20. Is this Victorian times? Will she be giving her kids roast budgie on Christmas Day because she messed up Denise's fringe or some such?
Surely she could be claiming tax credits, income support, child benefit and Housing Benefit instead of working all day for a possible fiver off a grateful customer?
Why can't the writer's get these basics right? it's 2012, not 1812.
Oh dear Lord. It is many, many, years since I watched EE and I KNEW who Phil's son was in a heartbeat.
Why can't my brain just dump useless info like that and then retain stuff I need to know?
HipposGoBerserk
Mon 10-Dec-12 23:00:42
It's because the scriptwriters live in large houses in north London and have no bloody idea. They don't need to be realistic, if the pay cheques come in anyway.
LadyIsabellasHollyWreath
Mon 10-Dec-12 22:56:07
There was a brilliant Alastair McGowan sketch a while ago in which an Eastenders character gets a job in Central London. Cue all the others commiserating him on leaving The Square, while he tried to explain to them the concept of "com-mu-ting".
Blondeshavemorefun
Mon 10-Dec-12 22:48:19
I thought about jsa
They all find work in the square and all shop at the minimarket which is prob 3 times the price of sains or tesco
No one seems to be beauty trained but all work in the saloon
Let alone phil a well known criminal having care of lexie
YouOldTinsellySlag
Mon 10-Dec-12 22:40:34
It's a real faux pas on the writers' part. They are not representing real life if they are writing about a life where benefits don't exist. Disclaimer- I know soaps aren't supposed to be that realistic, but come on!
It annoys me because surely before Bianca was released she would have some sort of welfare advice beforehand?
Icicle99
Mon 10-Dec-12 17:28:04
I was thinking exactly the same thing the other night. She could at least sign on to jobseekers couldn't she? I don't think anyone on EE has ever been on the dole.
FivesGoldNorks
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:33:38
Oh yes I remember little Ben. 
Thanks
FivesGoldNorks
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:26:32
Who's his son? Just wondering if I'd recofgnise the name? Who's the mother?
YouOldTinsellySlag
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:24:44
No, he was going to be a foster Dad to his jailbird son's daughter. It's a long story if you haven't watched for 20 years.
FivesGoldNorks
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:14:18
Phil's going to become a dad? Is this the same Phil that was in it when I used to watch about 20y ago? Isn't he a bit past all that?
YouOldTinsellySlag
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:12:29
Yes good point. According to EE writers, single mothers have to have 3 jobs, can't get childcare, Tax credits haven't been invented, can't get housing benefit, and the welfare state has not yet been rolled out to E20.
cbeebiesatemybrain
Mon 10-Dec-12 11:03:29
I remember a similar discussion about Heather working 3 jobs and still not being able to afford even the basics for herself and George. Eastenders is not exactly well known for its realism!
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 19:16:29
And the fact that Pat's house has only three bedrooms yet at one point Carol, Bianca, Morgan, Liam, and Tiffany, and Derek all lived there. It must be like a refugee camp up there!
Bakingnovice
Sun 09-Dec-12 17:18:58
Oops sent too soon!
Kat going off on holiday. Like Tanya running a salon but always being at home. Like max working in the car lot but always seeming to be at home/pub/ square. The bianca thing is badly written. She would have benefits in real life and surely carol can also help?
Bakingnovice
Sun 09-Dec-12 17:16:29
It's silly isn't it? Like tommy/ bobby/Oscar never being around. Like everyone who is working is working on the square. Like Kat and Alfie always complaining about cash but managing to close early, run off on h
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 13:25:45
Hang on, I think Janine wouldn't write to the Housing Benefit people or something so she couldn't claim it.
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 13:24:51
Sabriel you might be right there. However she can still get enough benefits to buy more than one fishfinger each!
Didn't they discuss Housing Benefit before she disappeared off this last time, and said they can't claim it because they aren't actually paying rent/ full market rent? It was Pat's house - who did she leave it to?
Plus although Rickaay has disappeared aren't they still married?
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 13:23:04
SPsFanjo, but they are always looking for each other too, aren't they? Have you seen Phil? Have you seen Derek? Have you seen Bianca? etc
There was a funny sketch on TV a few years back where they did an episode consisting of everyone just looking for each other. Still makes me laugh.
Or when they try ring each other and the can't get through ans leave voicemails instead.
Just stand in the square you will find them!
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 13:01:33
Also, it's so funny that everyone has to work on the square and nobody has a washing machine.
YouOldTinsellySlag
Sun 09-Dec-12 13:00:36
goralka- I know, I mean they're thinking of giving ex con Phil a baby when they haven't even done a paternity test to check he's related. That's before you get to the old crack habit, alcoholism, son who's banged up for manslaughter....
Yeah, I have to suspend my disbelief A LOT.
it just really pisses me off that they depict a Mum living hand to mouth on tips only when it is very, very well known that we have a welfare state.
If benefits were used they wouldn't have a story line
It's the same with the kids. When Kat was saying Tommy wouldn't sleep, you never saw or heard him!
goralka
Sun 09-Dec-12 12:57:35
you want verisimilitude?
EE is not good at that - why let reality get in the way of a good storyline?
What bugs me is the demographic.
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