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Monday nights on Bio channel at 9pm (probably repeated throughout the week) series 2 started last night and I am hooked already!

And at 10pm straight afterwards, there is 'Pregnant in Heels' which is THE most hilarious thing I have ever seen - anyone who saw Bethany Getting Married will have seen a glimpse of this Baby Guru already as Bethany went for a baby boot camp with here

God, I LOVE crap telly

Series two is really uncomfortable to watch, IMO. It's the series where Taylor began to increasingly hint at the DV she was experiencing, and where her husband commits suicide just towards the end or after filming had just finished.

It's very uncomfortable because she essentially traps the other Housewives in an impossible situation - hinting and hinting and hinting at something terrible going on, and they all know it, but she effectively gags any of them from naming the elephant in the room. I spent most of the series shouting at either Lisa, Adrianna or Kyle to just say to the camera - time to switch that off, my friend needs help.

Oh blimey, really? I thought she looked awful, like a skeleton ( Taylor that is)

I'm desperate for the next series of New York housewives to start again

Yeah, they get into all sorts of legal problems and you know - moral problems too! I mean jeez...they can all see what's going on. They should never have allowed it to be filmed. Lisa told her last season - if you ever need to run out, you have a safe place with me. I think Lisa could see what was happening way back.

Taylor just loses it this season, her fear is palpable and you can see the denial she's in but at the same time, desperate for someone to reach in and help her.

I don't want to be a spoiler but that's basically why she ends up trapping the others in the mess. She can't admit it, but she can't get herself out of it either so she keeps hinting at it. She does everything short of actually say the words. The others are trapped in that situation of trying to help her but when they try to address it head on, Taylor freaks out on a HUGE scale.

Oh but I love the HW of New Jersey though! I watched all the episodes a few months ago - Danielle and her "fear" of the other HV's, and her need for bodyguards is HILARIOUS!

Not sure I can handle NY - that blonde woman with her English husband freaked me out. There was something very strange about those two.

Oh Alex and Simon? Bonkers!

New Jersey is fab, but hasn't been on for AGES. I saw up to the whole court case with Daniel and the daughter (name escapes me)

Oh hahaha yeah - when she "physically assaulted and made her fear for her life" by pulling out her hair extensions at the charity do.

Hahahaha!

The other episode that made me laugh was when that so-called power player - the little blonde woman - that allegedly controlled all the social status of the other women....what was her name?? Anyway she'd befriended Danielle for ages, but was also friends with Jacqueline and the others kept saying - Danielle is going to FREAK OUT when she finds out. They met up in that restaurant and had a huge row, and the little blonde woman chased her out screaming at her. She completely lost it and I remember watching it thinking - aren't you meant to be the one in control here? Your yay or nay is supposed to hold social "power" yet you're just making yourself look mental!

I've seen them all, NY, NJ, OC, Washington - now that was interesting, but only one series, Atlanta & Beverley Hills. I still think New York is the best I love Jill Zarin, although New Jersey is entertaining.

They're all the same in every series, different accents and just varying degrees of botox

I LOVED the table flip!

Oh yes the blonde woman - nasty bit of work!

Oh dear, I know FAR too much about these women [ blush]

I googled Daniel to find out a bit about her rest etc and stumbled across some hideous porn pics. Do NOT go looking on a full stomach because you will lose your lunch! Blerk!

ARREST

Didn't Daniel go on to have a pop career with her lesbian lover?

Lesbian lover???? Oh dear me!

here.

There've been a couple more series since then, not quite as 'juicy' as the first one but still good.

Andy's grin is hilarious in that clip!

Why did the 3rd season of NJ go straight into Teresa's argument with her brother?

I do have quite a lot of love for Teresa...scatty, random, funny, but oh so fierce without much warning

I've not seen season 3.

Teresa is hilarious and her funny husband even more so!

I prefer Beverly Hills. Do you think those two really are full sisters Kyle and Kim they are so different? How much of it is set up? I still can't work it out. I read that Camille isn't going to do another season and I really liked her. I'm a huge fan of Frasier and it really opened my eyes to Kelsey!

I wouldn't be surprised if Kim doesn't have a fair few issues. I can't remember if it was season one or two, but it came out that she was fairly messed up about all the acting she did as a kid...I dunno, she alluded to having to do so much more than Kyle ever did and she was reluctant some of the time. As an adult, it made her a bit of a recluse.

I LOVE Brandi in the second series and what she accuses Kim of, but she's not too wide of the mark. I read in the paper recently she'd admitted herself to an addiction clinic.

I like Kyle and I do feel sorry for her, and how much her sister upsets her 'cos she really does just want Kim to be happy. And for the most part, in this instance, she does seem to know what will make Kim happy more than Kim does herself.

Camille - hated her in the first season, LOVED her in the second. She really came into her own and yes - Kelsey manages to show himself up as an arse, even with the tiny bits of info drip fed.

Oh my god, I have far too much of an opinion on these women!

I actually quite like the Beverley Hills bunch. They dont seem to exploit their children on it as much as the New Jersey bunch do. I would love to know what "Pandy" Pandora does for a living. I really like Lisa and her husband. I love the plastic surgeon and his wife as well. I love them so much that I dont even remember their names!!

I never saw the first series so I never saw Camille as a bitch. I notice Kelsey is remarried and about to become a father again.

Brandi's boobs are doing me in. Theres always one popping out.

^ Brandi is a special kind of awesome. Foot in plaster, on crutches AND wedges. Hahahaha! The other women are such a bitch about her but she definitely speaks the truth they don't like so much.

I don't think Pandora does anything really but I have a lot of love for Lisa. Pandora's husband to be is such a sycophant though! You can just see it: Yes Lisa/Pandora, no Lisa/Pandora, three bags full Lisa/Pandora.

I have to say I do like the Orange County series.

Do you think Ken is alot older than Lisa? he seems doddery and, that slimey mate of his with the Morroccon style night club!

OMG can you imagine what kind of old style Hollywood orgies they had in that secret room of their friend??

I think Ken and Lisa are the same age but Lisa has had lots of plastic surgery

Shes had good surgery though. I love how Kyle says shes had none at all. Rubbish!! Her daughter looks the same age as her.

I can imagine the shennanigans in that "fun" room in his house