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Let's talk football - what are your pre-season predictions? Who will the heroes and villains be?

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TheOtherHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 01-Aug-12 17:41:48

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Completely agree with my mums daughter regarding foreign ownership spoiling clubs, and the big teams needing to nurturing their academies and the young players coming through. Not just for club level but also to protect the national teams.

It's no coincidence that as the premier league gets more and more flooded with international players, the England (and scotland) team becomes worse and worse. England will never win another major trophy until this is sorted out. If you look at the Spanish/german/Italian/brazilian leagues- the vast majority of players are he grown, with the minority being overseas talent.

Indeed, when you look at the England team, how many of them have played abroad, none usually, then you look at other international teams and all their best players are from the Premiership.

Exactly.

Mymumsdaughter Fri 03-Aug-12 11:12:40

Absolutely laracroft the national team is less likely to thrive when there is limited homegrown talent

The homegrown talent thing is not just down to the major clubs though - it goes down to grass roots football and junior leagues.

It needs reviewed from the bottom up, and although there has been a recent review, I believe that some of the more radical proposals have been declined.

I'm quite excited about the developments at Eastlands, I've been following the planning stages as much as possible, and they do look to be trying to grow and develop young talent, although this will take a while to filter through.

Of course it's down to grass roots as well, but with foreign ownership - big clubs are starting to lose sight of their roots and their future. Rich owners want results now/ not interested in long term prospects.

Do you think there will ever be another Alex ferguson, who invested in youth and nurturing talent years ago and it paid off- will there ever be another Ryan giggs... Signed on as a boy, played his way up through the various teams until senior level- and will play there until he retires and then will probably be a coach there. Kenny d done it years ago at liverpool- this time round under American owners he wasn't given 5 minutes.
Is roman interested in nurturing talent and ensuring Chelsea's legacy for years to come- or interested In getting the big names in for short term glory.

It is sad as obviously money talks- but the FA really do need to look at the issue as like op said- the premier league, and more and more of the lower leagues, simply become training grounds for foreign players.

NicholasTeakozy Fri 03-Aug-12 15:05:54

Similar to Steve Bull Lara, he was sold by Ron Atkinson, then West Brom manager to Wolves, and that's where he stayed. I maintain that's why he hardly ever played for England.

The good thing about having so many overseas players in the Premier League is there some really good footballers playing lower and non-league football. Having said that, the best player I've ever seen play live is a chap called Steve Norris, he's a legend (overused, but accurate in his case) at The Shay, and at The Buck's Head. On his day he was unstoppable.

Mymumsdaughter Fri 03-Aug-12 22:37:36

I like the Crewe approach to nurturing it seems to have been sucessful in providing them with funds to develop as a club Grassroots football needs to take a more holistic view of younger players and equip them better to deal with the pressure and the adoration they may face, rather than seek maximum profit or reflected glory

CheeryCherry Sun 05-Aug-12 09:26:43

Big football fans in this house too, my dad played alongside Jack Charlton in the olden days so its been in the blood a long time! My brother, as a teen, turned down an offer by a top flight club. We can't afford a season ticket, nor the time to go every fortnight, though pre-DCs we had season tickets for years. Always buy DS new kit for his August birthday- he certainly gets the moneys worth over the year. DS has played since he was 5, proud he loves and knows the sport so well. Has great banter with team mates, and all driven to win fairly. See a lot of bad behaviour from opposing teams though! He and his mates tend to be impressed by skill and achievement more than idiotic professionals thankfully. Dream of promotion to premiership this year to make us back where we belong! Other than that, hoping City come top and their red rivals get relegated...mwahahaha grin

Evil eyes to cheery for the comment about wanting city to winangrywink

CheeryCherry Sun 05-Aug-12 13:38:21

wink disclaimer...don't support them, just prefer them!

MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea Sun 05-Aug-12 15:55:11

I can guarantee that the England team will carry on its dismal way, winning nothing, infighting between the members and generally being a huge embarrassment to the country.
I think the men's football performance in the Olympics was a disgrace. We are a laughing stock.
Thank god for proper athletes and sportspeople.
The likes of John Terry make me sick.

SunnyOutlook Sun 05-Aug-12 16:47:36

Rangers fan here (Glasgow)
I've had a season ticket for more than 25 years for the 'oldco'. Been horrified at some of the stuff that came out over the last few months but I think the club is the supporters (not the owners) so intend to continue going to see the new Rangers playing in the 3rd division. Quite looking forward to it actually - must need my head looked at!

Note to Portsmouth fans - good luck, hope you make it too.

Having gone to watch Man City since the tender age of 11 - I have had 44 years of bad times and worse!!! LOL. I still dont believe we won the Prem....was the most thrilling season for many, many years. My only hope is that we start this season the way we ended last season.

NicholasTeakozy Sun 05-Aug-12 19:04:12

Sunny, I know a chap who's an Aldershot fan, and when they went bust in the early 90s they had to re-start in the Combined Counties League and needed 7 promotions to return to the level they were at. Their crowds increased massively, almost from day 1.

Thanks Sunny, I've been shocked about Rangers too. I think Portsmouth are heading the same way, it does make me sad, but hopefully they will both come through.

Nicholas I live near Aldershot, it is good to see how they have managed to climb their way back up.

Shabba I've had a soft spot for Man C for many years, I always used to look forward to when Pompey played them in the old 1st division. I remember clearly the day when Pompey sent them down to Div 2, how times change. Was v. pleased when they won the title.

Myself and my DS4 (he's 15 and has been forced to be a Blue by me) sat in the living room with the radio on (not got skysports) We had our local channel on GMR. Got to extra time and we were both close to tears. 3 minutes later we were screaming, jumping up and down and hugging each other. No more the Noisy neighbours (hopefully).

I remember the going down to Division 2 hmm we live close to Bolton and my hubby is a Bolton fan - he was so upset on the last day of the season but delighted for me!!!

buggyRunner Sun 05-Aug-12 21:04:12

We are a big football house.

Dp is man u- and apparently so are our girls (season tickets etc)
Dd1(3) calls anything read "man united uniform" confused

We would have got dd1 a strip but she didn't want it as it was a boys kit angryhmm. She does love playing footba though

I enjoy watching and fant footy but don't feel a strong connection to a team (apart from man u as it rules my dp's immediate mood *shudders at last season)
I loved the way blackpool played in the premier ship- attacking and brave etc.

For me it's a case of "if you cant beat em join em" so I started playing fant footy and it actually made things interesting- I even won dp's league!!! grin

Mrs Robert duvall- couldn't agree more, ESP comments regarding John terry. Can't stand the arrogant fuck.

Buggyrunner- your dp has good taste

I agree too MrsRD - I have very little interest in the England team compared to club football, I just look at them and see a bunch of adulterous, lying, self entitled toerags.

I'm sure my team's players aren't totally innocent either, but not in the same headline grabbing way. Both of them.... sad

MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea Mon 06-Aug-12 10:00:17

Dh is a typical Southern Man U fan..,watches everything from the comfort of the sofa.
Ds supports Reading, for no apparent reason...we do not live there, have no connections. But when he was 7 he announced that was his team and he has stayed loyal..he's 13 now. Delighted they're back up there. We loved Steve Coppell...a quiet, dignified, intelligent manager and an excellent role model.

My DS picked a completely random team to support too, Aston Villa (we live in Hampshire). This isn't too popular with DH's Birmingham City supporting family! He is quite happy to don a Pompey shirt when he comes to Fratton Park with me though.

Dh has got tickets to take ds to the Charity Shield on sunday so ds is bouncing around again now in anticipation.

I know I said in a way I'd rather we didn't dominate as it's not good for the game but I've had so many Man Utd fans tell me they won't 'allow' us to win the league again I've changed my mind and I want 10 years now! Our destiny is in our hands, nowt to do with them!

Dh has got tickets to take ds to the Charity Shield on sunday so ds is bouncing around again now in anticipation.

I know I said in a way I'd rather we didn't dominate as it's not good for the game but I've had so many Man Utd fans tell me they won't 'allow' us to win the league again I've changed my mind and I want 10 years now! Our destiny is in our hands, nowt to do with them!

Oh and we are getting a puppy soon who ds wants to name Mario - can't wait to shout that at a hairy lttle terrier down the park!

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