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Feel so sad and confused

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I've been with my husband for about 11 years, and we have one DS who we both adore.

For the last 8 months DH has been emotionally detaching himself from me more and more, and I have been trying everything I can think of to make our marriage work and get back on track (eg: suggesting Relate, writing him letters to try and get him to talk, asking him to go out together on our own etc etc etc) and he has told me that he doesn't know if he still loves me, that I don't respect him enough (I used to have a good but very stressful job which I gave up 13 months ago as I was on the verge of a breakdown, as DH is away with work a lot of the time and I wasn't coping well with DS/stressful job/travelling etc on my own). so DH expects me to worship the ground he walks on as he pays the bills/mortgage etc. I don't ask him for any "spending" support as I am still using money I received from work when I left.

DH has a very successful job, and doesn't feel that he should support me to stay at home to the point of calling me a "Lazy Fxxkin cow" last Saturday and told me that I need to go out and get another job. He doesn't see that bringing up our child to be a job enough !!

So (To get to the point) I have been very susupicious of him over the last few months because of the emotional detachment and emotional bullying etc, so had been looking through his phone when I found that he has turned off his "Sent Messages" option on his phone, this along with him being permanently attached to it, which is a massive change around from 6 months ago when he never knew where his phone was ! So I switched the sent option back on, but low and behold it's switched off the next day etc !

I then noticed that he was being very cagey about receipts he had from hotels etc, and was very very vague when I asked him where he was staying/who he was with etc.

So on Saturday morning I went through his wallet and found a hotle receipt for G&T's (lots of them) in a hotel about 45 mins away from here, when he said he was staying in London which is 2 1/2 hours from here. I also found another receipt for a dinner for two which was on a night where he said that there was a crowd of people going out.

I felt sick all day but stayed calm (if a little angry) all day and waited for DS to go to bed and then confronted him about it - expecting and hoping that he would say how sorry he was and beg my forgiveness etc - but no he kept on lying saying he was in place No 1 and having a right go at me for going through his wallet. He finally said to me (When I asked him for the 100th time why he was lying about where he was) that I obviously knew he wasn't in place No 1 and with that he stormed off to bed.

We then tried to talk the next evening, where he finally admitted that he was having dinner with a work colleague on the night he should have been with a group of people, but that he lied because of my reaction, I then asked him about the other night, and he said that he wasn't going to tell me because I would just over react. I said that if he wasn't preapred to be honest with me that our marriage was over and I hoped he was proud of himself etc etc, to which he said nothing and I went to bed (In the spare room) and cried.

This morning he asked me to give it another 24hrs (WTF) and I said no I was finished with it all and I just wanted to him to leave (Which he refused as he said he paid the mortgage) So I then rang him and begged him to leave for a short while for the sake of our DS, and we started rowing again about the night in the hotel and he said he had one meeting cancelled and decided to ring this woman up and meet her, but the was nothing in it, and she was just a friend and a good laugh !!!

I have told him tonight that it's over and I can't go back, so he has gone upstairs and I'm sat down here crying.

I feel so sad - I never wanted this for my life and I feel he's forced me into this by his immature and carefree behaviour - I wouldn't even look at another man as I was in the marriage for life - I feel that my amazing little boy doesn't deserve this and I can't get over the grief and sadness I am feeling - should I try and talk to him or should I stay strong ????

would love any advice - and sorry for the long post
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 10:28:35
Trying to be more organised and assertive today, and rang up about the rental property - and have found out it's already gone - boo ! then rang to speak to the CAB and they are only open on Thursday afternoons - arrrggghhh !

But i have made and app to look round another house tomorrow, but it looks really grim - never mind I need to move on !

Pic - did you and your h divorce or did the break mean that you could rebuild you relationship ? was you husband as cold as mine is being ?

My H is normally fairly crap at talking about things but I would have thought that this would have made him realise what he's going to lose - but then again he still thinks I don't have the balls to do it !!

Help ! am feeling so crap !
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 08:34:17
Thanks Pic - that does make sense - I am having the house valued today and have looked through some rented properties in the area, and found one near DS's school which looks nice so I may try and go and look at it today.

I think your right that he doesn't think I have the courage to do it - he thinks that all our material things (Nice house/Cars/holidays etc) will make me stay - but I just want to be happy and even if we end up in a small house but with no stress, then I'll be happy - the OW thing is just the end of the line for me, as our relationship was rubbish before - no affection/respect/happiness (The respect thing is on either side if I'm honest) so this is just the icing on the cake.

I tried and tried to make it work and asked him on several occasions to come home and not go to the pub, try relate and he refused saying that he was going to do what he wanted when he wanted, and we've limped along like this for most of the year - so although this is horrendous it kind of explains his behaviour.

I think I'll try and look at some houses and try to talk to him tomorrow night, he's away tonight so at least it will give me time to get my thoughts in order.

Thanks everyone for replying - it really does help
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 04-Nov-09 23:24:36
I think it might help you to feel a bit more assertive in a more organised way.

He sounds like an absolute arsehole, to be honest. I'm not sure what he thinks is going to happen, but I had to deal with my (nearly) exH ignoring it all, and I eventually just had enough and moved out. It was really hard, but I had to face it and just get on with it. I couldn't stand another day.

Make a plan that doesn't include/involve him at all, is my advice. Go back to work, get a house, and divorce his pathetic arse. AND get half the money from the house in the divorce. Your DS will be fine whatever you do, as long as you're strong and try and be positive about it. If you're fine, he'll be fine. It's not hard, you just need to be organised.

If you've no money for a rented house, borrow it, stay with friends, just think of a way to get out of there. Then he'll get the message, you'll see. What a tool. He doesn't believe you've got the balls to do it. Prove him wrong.

Hope you're alright, it's vile, innit? Big hug. x

ps I'm really happy now. That could be you in 6 months.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 04-Nov-09 22:17:22
Hiya

Have been out with my best friend tonight - who are also both of our best friends, and things are really tough for them both - they are now bickering (eg: her siding with me - him siding with DH) and she says that I should a) get some proper legal advice and b) if he still refuses to move I should move out for my peace of mind ! any thoughts ??? I really don't want to uproot DS to then have to do it again - plus I don't have that much money to spend on renting/bills etc - oh god why is life so hard !!!

DH came home tonight and played with DS (Is now being wonder Dad all of a sudden) and I heard him say "Go and get Mummy to play this game" so I had to, as it would have looked dreadful to DS, and I just sat there nearly in tears through the whole sorry game, hating him and wanting him to leave me alone.

He is now upstairs in bed again, and seems to be completely ignoring the whole thing, and pretending it isn't happening. Is that normal too ? I mean there's been no begging my forgiveness (As he doesn't think he has done all that much wrong) and no "We'll go to relate" or do anything to keep the marriage together - he's just tried to hug me on Monday night, to which I said he had to be joking, and he then said had I made up my mind, to which I replied yes, that I couldn't forgive him, so he then said right I wont bother you again, and has been upstairs most of the time since....!

Keep going from this strange numbness through to crying hysterically !!!

I really need to sort my head out, but don't know how !!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 04-Nov-09 21:00:16
Your feeling dead and numb is totally normal. You are reacting to an incredibly painful situation by blocking out the worst of it - hence the numbness. This is a mechanism that helps us to get on with everday survival in the face of trauma.

So sorry he's being such an arse about leaving the house. You really should get some proper legal advice about this. I hope your uncle will be of some help.

Glad to hear you're telling people in rl. And very interesting that your neighbour has apparently been able to see all along how bad things have been.

You're moving in the right direction. Your H is still in denial. I'm not sure I'd be buying into the 'emotional affair' line though. He didn't spend a whole evening alone in a hotel room with a woman to have an emotional affair hmm

stay strong. Be clear and consistent and calm with him about what you want to happen next (ie he moves out to give you some headspace).
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 04-Nov-09 08:27:15
Thanks for your kind messages and support.

We are still at the stalemate situation - where he is refusing to move out, because a) he pays all of the bills and b) he thinks that if he goes then will never get back in the house (Maybe he should have thought about that when he did what he did !)

We are now in a position where he is upstairs in the evening and I'm sat downstairs - not good !

I have printed some things off the internet for him about emotional affairs (Although I suspect his was moving towards the more physical affair - due to the hotel room etc) and have just taken it to him and he is reading it !

I just want him to go and rent somewhere - I wont stop him seeing our DS - but he is adament that he wont go.

I have started to tell people, becuase I keep bursting into tears everywhere (Not good at keeping things inside) so I either look like a mad crazy woman or I have to tell people - our neighbour came over yesterday and all she said was that at least he can't hurt you anymore - it made me so sad, as they can see how things have been - and I've beaten myself up about it so much over the last 10 months...!

I've got an estate agent coming round the house tomorrow and am going to give my uncle a call who is solicitor for some advice.

I just feel so sad and if I'm honest a bit dead and numb inside - is this normal ?

Thanks
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 04-Nov-09 07:21:15
he will do everything to make you out to be the bad person - to alliviate his guilt. That is another reason i think it is a good idea to get evidence and tell people. I know a lot of people want to keep things quiet but i am so glad people know because they can support me and see the chnages in my h too.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Tue 03-Nov-09 21:57:13
How are things this evening sadperson?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Tue 03-Nov-09 10:37:59
Thanks Miumiu - I think the CAB sounds like a good idea.

I feel deep down that I have known for a long time that he was emtionally removed from our marriage - he has made the last 10 months of my life soo miserable, that finding this out has made me feel a bit more determined to end the marriage.

He is now (As per usual) in total denial and hoping that if he does nothing then it will all calm down and he can carry on as though nothing has happened - he is also furious that I should tell people and make him out to be the bad guy !

When we were going to have a talk on Sunday - he casually said to a nieghbour that he was going to go back inside for "a bollxcking" how nice that he shows no remorse but just sees it as me being an emtional nightmare !

Ho hum think I'll go and call the CAB - have already made an app for an estate agent to come round and value the property on Thursday !
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Tue 03-Nov-09 10:32:02
Dont be afraid to talk about it in rl - you may well surprise yourself that others have gone through this too.

If you still feel you want to divorce you will have to learn to live without depending on him so do that now - get a babysitter to do things for you and dont feel you have to tell him what you are up to. Maybe ask him to come home early some nights so you can go out. You say you still have your own money at the moment so you dont need to ask him for any.

If you want a partnership marriage you have to make sure you ask for it - otherwise i see you being his housekeeper/childminder while he does what HE WANTS
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