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how easy is it to fit a cistern ball valve?

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Pudden Fri 10-Feb-12 13:38:00

our upstairs loo cistern in our new home takes ages to fill up after flushing and its v. noisy. When I took the lid off the cistern I noticed that the valve is too big for the space and drags upwards for about 20 mins until it's filled up again.

I am going to have to fit another one and am a bit nervous about tackling it ; anyone done this and can offer any advice/tips?

ta!

peggotty Fri 10-Feb-12 13:39:43

Do you mean just replacement of the ball float in the cistern? If it's that, it couldn't be simpler, you just unscrew it from the arm and screw another one on - voila!

Pudden Fri 10-Feb-12 13:51:38

no; it's the whole valve. The previous house owner must have had to hammer it in to get it inside the cistern the silly ass

easy. we replaced all with workings of our loo recently. everything came from screwfix and there was a video somewhere dh watched (may have been youtube) that showed what to do. think the screwfix website sells everything you need. we swapped from a lever to a push button so it's much quieter and fills really fast now.

PigletJohn Fri 10-Feb-12 14:48:50

very easy but you must turn off the water supply to the cistern first (if you are lucky or it was a good plumber there will be a service valve in the pipe under the cistern)

If the pipe goes through the bottom of the cistern, some water will come out when you remove it. Have a basin and towels handy.

There are some very good silent-filling valves on the market now. The Fluidmaster used to be the best, but the new Torbeck is even better.

It should cost less than £15 even at a high-street retailer.

side entry easy

bottom entry bit more difficult

there are also modern flushers which are very quiet, but you have to take the cistern off to fit them, and you will find the fixing screws have rusted solid and are very difficult to free or cut.

Pudden Fri 10-Feb-12 14:56:44

Piglet are the valves one size fits all? I have the more awkward bottom entry one <sounds painful and 'Friday night-ish'>

thank you

Pudden Fri 10-Feb-12 14:58:10

also do you not have a float on the torbeck ones?

PigletJohn Fri 10-Feb-12 15:03:10

they have a float, but it is not a ball on a long arm.

Due to the design, they are "equilibreum" valves meaning that the float causes the water pressure to push against a diaphagm in the valve to shut it, so it doesn't need a big lever to push it shut. Their earlier model had a float the size of an eggcup, and you could open and shut it with a fingertip.

Pudden Fri 10-Feb-12 15:06:30

thats great..thank you both

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