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New thread ladies to celebrate our DCs turning 4!! (!!!) 
Forgot to say - i have loads of family coming round on Xmas eve! It's been about a year since i last saw my brother and sister and about 18 months since i've ever heard from my dad so it'll be nice to see them again! There'll be about 18 of us in my house altogether!! Eeek!! Looking forward to chucking some sausage rolls and pizzas in the oven for them tho! My sister and I were talking the other day about how crap Xmas was these days and that years ago they would have been filled with family get togethers etc so i thought why not get everyone together!
Let's hope it all goes well!!
Sounds wonderful RG - hope you all have a great time and it goes smoothly! You and DD have been having a good time from the sounds of things. My eldest is really into the Christmas songs this year, and has been wandering round the house singing stuff like "Last Christmas" which is incredibly surreal
So how was you compulsory forced fun Greedy?! Doesn't really sound like whoever was responsible for that idea entirely had the best measure of what people would like to do!
Thanks for the support; I won't pretend to you guys that it's OK at the mo because it's definitely in the getting worse before it gets better phase right now, but the drugs DO work and now I'm on the Doc and the HVs radar I know we will get there. As you correctly surmise it has been mostly circumstantial; the difficult part will be working out what we can do....
Everybody is getting mega excited here....
Oooo it's like treading in new snow being on the new thread! Thanks RG. Sounds like you are going to have a houseful of fun! Eek!
Loopy - re the drugs! Hope you didn't feel I was belittling you, I don't think it is all circumstantial but that certainly won't have helped! The compulsory fun was rubbish and I have made up my mind not to be forced into going again next year - lots of people weren't there and they certainly weren't working so think I may quietly slip away for some last minute xmas shopping or just go home and put my feet up next year. I moan too much, that is my trouble - I just draw attention to myself!
Might not get the chance to come on much over the next week or so, so if I don't then Happy Christmas lovely mums and speak to you in the New Year! May all your DCs get everything they want and may you all get to chill out at some point 
. Cheers everyone 
. xxx
No not at all Greedy 
PND is basically about being overwhelmed somehow and different things overwhelm different people. For me there's not really been any huge stuff, just too many balls for too long. Hope you gave a great Christmas!!
Me, I shall be around throughout now somebody has pointed me at the MN app it makes MNing on my phone loads easier and dh is less likely to realise what I'm doing 
Lost you all for a bit there, have caught up on the old thread now.
Loopy - sorry to hear you've been feeling so low. This time of year doesn't help and you work so hard with your 4 girls. Hopefully the pills, and getting over Christmas will help you feel more yourself soon. Sending lots of love and hugs. Xx.
RG - Sounds like DD is well and truly getting into the Christmas spirit! I saw your cakes on fb - they look yummy. Your Christmas plans sound lovely. It may well mean DD is worn out and ready for bed tonight instead of wide awake and refusing to sleep which I foresee here
Greedy - I don't do enforced fun very well. The impromptu nights out (which rarely happen when you have kids ) are always better.
I have been busy this week. I baked and decorated 165 cupcakes for my friends' wedding which was yesterday. The kids went to stay with the gps for a few days and it's been very quiet here. Lovely having them back now! The wedding was gorgeous and I felt so privileged to have played a small part in it. There was also a lot of free champagne and wine....
Oh yes the cupcakes!! Good to hear it went well.
Hope you all have lovely Christmases
Stuffed and bloated but very pleasant!!
How about you?
Well, I got an iPad so that was nice. Girls all had a good time, I think. Not the best few days of my life 
but I made it. Was DD really excitable throughout?!
Loopy - you made it and you will get through this - we are all holding hands. You got an ipad, I got......... a slanket. DH knows me so well! I am wearing it right now, looking like a giant marshmallow. TBH what's better than a blanket which means you can still drink wine an eat chocolate
Very relaxing here. Kids were up at 8am, chilled out stockings session, breakfast then present explosion followed by a ridiculous amount of food for 4 of us. Popped round to friends for drinks in the afternoon - my friend who suffered a miscarriage in January and is due to give birth on Thursday (though as her DD was 9 days late we are not counting on this one arriving on time!)
Went to my parents' house yesterday. dad was okay, though clearly getting tired and grumpy when he left at 5pm, which is not like him at all 
. He loved the jumper I gave him, so much so that he was up at 5 this morninng wearing it!
What were your most random pressies? DH's aunt gave me book containing fairy chants I think she forgets I am a 33 year old woman. DD likes it though!
Am laughing at fairy chants sounds like you had a fab day jet, though it must have been hard seeing your dad do unusually tired
Slightly better day here today. Started badly but dh took girls to soft play in the afternoon so that helped to perk me up a bit.
Watch out, or I'll send it to you Loopy! Glad you've had a better day
It was more the grumpy side of Dad that got to me, as he used to be (and still often is) relentlessly cheerful. William had a pump ball gun which my Mum had bought him for Christmas and was taking great delight in taking pot shots at me. Normally Dad would have helped him aim better , but instead grumbled about 'that's what you get if you give someone a toy gun'. It was very weird to see him like that.
Just watched Great Expectations - I love the book and read it at school so was looking forward to it. I enjoyed it, thought it very atmospheric, but Joe Gargery wasn't as I envisaged him, and Mrs Joe should be skinny and shrewish, imo, but the grown-up Pip was very beautiful and I am looking forward to the rest of the series.
I'm going to watch it today. In bed, on iplayer on the iPad whilst DD4 snoozes with me. DH is taking the others out for the day today so I do not have to eat with them and do not have to feel guilty about them not doing anything. Any more suggestions for good iplayer dates gratefully received!
And have a big hug jet. Made me just reading about it. So many things make people grumpy (!) when they used not to be, and over the last year he has had to cope with so much but he still loves you all and will have enjoyed spending Christmas with everyone I am sure. I guess it's just a bit harder for him to feel/express the same as things have shifted for him now. As somebody said to me on Christmas day, find the positives and remember them
Hi guys
had a lovely time here but DH has announced he wants to do something "different" next year! My mum and dad always come for xmas now and it is hard because I think he feels he is missing out on his family - we still see them but not on xmas day. I am a bit because we are going to spend a week with all his family over New Year and most of his family live really near so we can see them any time, unlike my mum and dad, but I kind of see where he is coming from and my mum and dad are quite high maintenance in some respects. Opinionated. Of course I am completely different . DS was thoroughly spoilt and we ate far too much food.
Loopy - hope you enjoy your ipad date. We have Great Expectations on skyplus, my mum has announced that she doesn't want to watch it so I guess we will have to wait until she is gone then!
Jetgirl - Was your Dad just having a bad day? It is hard when parents are grumpy with the kids, i always feel torn between defending my DC and pleasing the "grown ups". Doubly hard when they are not usually like that. I think Adam would like the pop gun and no doubt cause my dad to say something similar!
DH is looking after Adam later on today so I can go for a girly lunch with my mum. Otherwise the usual post-xmas lull. I have so much work to do and a 3000 word essay but I am in denial!
Loopy your ideal Xmas sounds fab! I would love that too but for the past 3 years we have gone to the in-laws for a quiet Xmas and have stayed the night too coz they have a spare room and we dont, so they couldn't stay here. What's worse () is that DP and both his parents are veggies so I've always had to wait til boxing day to get my turkey lol.
I had the family over in Xmas eve this year for drinks and a buffet so maybe I should suggest to DP that we have a big family Xmas day instead! Mowahahaha! Don't know where we'd eat tho - my table only seats 4!
No random presents this year but have ended up with THREE tins of heroes!! Also ended up with 3 bottles of wine but i'd never complain about that!
Hope Christmas eve was a huge success . No random presents here either but gift from outlaws (cash as ever) came in card that said only "from mil and fil". And dh thinks I am being neurotic when I say mil doesn't like me
Happy new year! We actually were out, a friend had a dinner party so we had a quiet but convivial evening whilst dd4 slept in the travel cot upstairs till shortly after 12. Can't believe this year our bunch all start school 
!!
Happy new year all!
Quite surreal isn't it Loopy!! Seems like only last week that i was posting about DD cluster feeding and DP having chicken pox, all within the first 3 weeks!
So excited! One of my closest friends has gone into labour this evening. Happy birth vibes her way please!
It did, baby born at 00:38 this morning! 4 hour labour, v 
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