Ed Miliband's conference speech live stream

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FrancesMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 02-Oct-12 14:35:48

Live stream of Ed Miliband's speech here if you're interested: Get Adobe Flash player

I can't use flash player because I'm on my phone, but I was listening to it. I thought the wee bit I heard sounded stilted and stale. We KNOW about his family background - he tells us every year. Look forward, Ed - not back. I also don't like his voice, which I know is unreasonable. He can't help it. I turned it off because it sounded like it was going to be same old, same old.

TheBlackShiksa Tue 02-Oct-12 15:11:15

Gah just a longer version of thought for the day...

Pagwatch Tue 02-Oct-12 15:31:14

He kept saying One Nation
I kept hearing 'under a groove'...

I wish he wouldn't try and pretend he is an ordinary kid who just rocked up to the local comp. and talking about himself at school makes it hard to ignore the fact that he sounds about 15.

Where did my Labour party go? [sigh]

LittleFrieda Tue 02-Oct-12 15:39:55

Who is Ed Miliband?

claig Tue 02-Oct-12 15:48:06

I like Ed Miliband but I thought it was not very good. It is not his fault, it was obviously scripted for him by a teenage progressive scribbler who has cut his teeth on Guardian editorials. The teenage scribbler came up with one notion, "one nation", and they were determined to crowbar it in at every opportunity. Ed did his best to deliver it, as the brains of the Shadow Cabinet would have wanted, but it is just hot air, a plastic balloon. It won't cut it, the public are not as stupid as the teenage scribbler, his henchmen and hoodies think, they won't fall for this slap on the back, self-satisfied divide and rule.

Ed is very good in one-to-one interviews where he comes up with his own answers. They should put the teenage scribbler back in his box and let Ed draft his own speeches. One nation smacks of teenage desperation.

claig Tue 02-Oct-12 15:55:12

The public is suffering under the greatest authority since the 1930s and all the teenage scribbler can offer is platitudes about "one nation". If teh progressives can't up their game, it's over and the Coalition will be voted in again even though they are becoming more and more unpopular.

I can't wait for Gove's speech at the Tory conference. I'd bet my back teeth that that will be a cracker and no teenager will have been asked for advice.

claig Tue 02-Oct-12 15:57:44

austerity not authority

Mono1 Tue 02-Oct-12 16:17:41

I missed the speech but when my 2.2yr old saw Ed Miliband on tv on Sunday morning he turned to me and said "man open his mouth and shut his mouth Mummy". I thought he was dead right.

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claig Tue 02-Oct-12 16:36:02

What is worrying about this is that it obviously took months of planning, the finest minds toiled late into the night on this, philosophers and teenage scribblers were asked for their views and it must have been rehearsed for hours on end, and there was nobody who spotted that the emperor had no clothes, that the scribbler who penned 'one nation', has no notion.

No wonder they haven't come up with any firmer policies yet, or maybe this is al there is. One nation doesn't deserve an ovation. Now "one planet" and a polar bear with a melting glacier mint, that would get the public moving.

somebloke123 Tue 02-Oct-12 16:48:14

According to the Guido Fawkes Site sections of the speech were lifted verbatim from former speeches so maybe not all that amount of work did go into it.

None of us has any control over the parents to whom we were born and we shouldn't hold it against hime that his dad was an eminent professor of Advanced Bollocks Studies at the LSE but he shouldn't make himself out to be just a regular comprehensive pupil.

breadandbutterfly Tue 02-Oct-12 16:53:55

Have only read summaries of speech, but couldn't care less if it's delivered in Serbo Coat or a whisper - more interested in the content and liked the commitment to restore the NHS - if that's definite, then that gets my vote.

Not sure about ref to new qual for non-academic teens - might be good, depends on details.

Rest sounded bit short on detail but then you can't expect much at this stage.

Doing it all with no notes is impressive. Newspaper 'reviews' I've read sound like it went well.

breadandbutterfly Tue 02-Oct-12 16:55:28

I think it is relevant he went to a comp, actually - he is often tarred with same brush as Cameron and Clegg as toff who's out of touch. The fact he went to a comp means he does know how ordinary people live - Cameron clearly has just no idea.

claig Tue 02-Oct-12 17:01:08

Yes, I like the fact that he went to a comp, but his spinners musn't overdo it, they have to drop it in subtly, not ruin it by driving it in with a sledgehammer. I also like the fact that he comes from a real leftwing family, he is not just a public school parvenu who dons a Labour mantle. And the fact that he comes from an immigrant background and now leads Labour shows that there is social mobility, but that was also true of Major and Thatcher.

TalkinPeace2 Tue 02-Oct-12 17:10:24

But then again he has Ed "Who said that about me?" Balls on his team. FAIL.

TakingBackMonday Tue 02-Oct-12 17:13:25

Oxford, Harvard, millionaire. Yeah, one of the people.

There is no opposition.

DevaDiva Tue 02-Oct-12 17:13:50

I listened to it all hmm found it pretty dull tbh.

Didn't learn anything new or find out about new inspiring policies.

Found it either bland a bit patronising, don't think Red Ed is going to do it for Labour.

Pagwatch Tue 02-Oct-12 17:21:38

I suspect that my experience of a local comp and Ed millibands experience are pretty far apart.

I would weigh his education far more heavily if it wasn't presented as proof that he is just a regular guy.
That is the most awful guff and I am staggered if there is anyone other than those who desperately wish to, that see it as meaning anything other than that his parents were lefty academics.

He should step off the 'awful posho people are the problem'

Pretending that you should dislike Cameron for his schooling rather than his policies is patronising and infantile.

Seriously. A Labour opposition. please

HoneyMum21 Tue 02-Oct-12 17:25:43

well, the bits i've seen suggest to me he didn't come across as badly as usual. It's not saying much, but hey, it's something! Still wouldn't vote for any of them.

UnrequitedSkink Tue 02-Oct-12 17:26:50

I quite like him and still came away feeling uninspired. He's not a bad orator (now) and it's very impressive that he managed to do the whole thing without notes or fluffing it, but the content was mostly just rehashed same old same old. Shame really, it could have been brilliant.

CogitoErgoSometimes Tue 02-Oct-12 17:28:55

I hate the inverse snobbery being invoked. All this 'my dad was poorer than your dad' crap is utterly fake. Why would anyone strive for success in a Milliband-led society if all it will get them is open resentment & accusations of being out of touch? Lowest common denominator... no thanks.

Mirage Tue 02-Oct-12 17:34:52

I'll bet my bottom dollar that Ed Milliband didn't go to the same kind of sink comp that I and my contemporaries attended.He grew up amongst the left wing academic intelligensia and no amount of 'I'm just like you,really I am' is going to cut it with me.His upbringing and the upbringing of the vast majority of people in this country have nothing in common. I'm the last person to hold someone's background against them and snobbery,reverse or otherwise is my bugbear,but do not pretend to be something you aren't to try and win votes.We aren't stupid.hmm

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