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Any takers on how long before he's ousted? Three months? Six? ...

ugh. he's just awful isn't he?

Unfortunately he only has himself to blame as most of the crap comes out of his own mouth. remember the interview of, 'these strikes are wrong' ad nauseum. Cringe worthy.

When one of his closest advisers Lord Glasman came out with the description 'no strategy, no narrative and little energy'... that had to be the start of the end.

He's in a dreadful position, isn't he? Simply not charismatic enough to make something out of nothing, he's been totally cast adrift by the lack of any Labour policies. I know the party is having a review of policies, but there is still nothing there - no actual policies, not alternative cuts agenda.

There is only so far they can get in deploring current actions, and unless they put forward a different agenda for cuts, they risk being written off entirely. Those who believe the current agenda is wrong are only making empty noise unless they can articulate what would be better.

Oh - I don't think he'll be ousted. Labour needs to continue with an expendable stop gap until they do have a real manifesto, and a leader who could deliver it. I can't actually think of who that might be; they really don't have anyone of standing who would be acceptable to the electorate.

That's it. He doesn't seem to stand for anything, except the basic premise of objecting to any opposition policy.

I realise you do that in opposition, but you need to be able to articulate your alternative and why that would be better too. Times a ticking Ed, you need to get your finger out.

Milliband is a joke. I reckon he is a robot. He certainly speaks like one.

I suppose, on the 'expendable stop gap' test, they'll risk leaving him in place until 18 mths out from the next Gen Elec? Then who? Big brother Dave? Balls? (Please not him) Andy whathisname?

I'd be happy to see Balls lead. Cameron hates him - he's bolshy and bullish which winds people up but there's also a keen intelligence there, and the charisma and challenge that Ed seems to be lacking at the moment. There was an interesting Polly Toynbee piece in the Guardian here where she makes the point that only Balls and Burnham are doing much of job at attacking the policies/evidencing the failures etc.

And I do like Andy Burnham but he's still very much a single issue politician - very well informed on health, but maybe not strong enough elsewhere. Yvette Cooper is an alternative maybe?

Re the when - soon, I hope. Time is ticking on and Labour needs time for the public to get to know the opposition leader, to get to see him/her as credible, well before a GE.

not sure that changing deck chairs around on sinking ship leader is enough. At the moment, the party is not ready to lead much of anything and seriously needs to listen to grassroots members. Why wasn't there much of a Labor presence at the recent protests?

I cannot see Labour being seen as a credible government in waiting for some time. Most of the front bench are tainted by association with the Brown administration, particularily Miliband and Balls. This association undermines anything they have to say about the economy as most view them as at least partially responsible for the mess.

But he is cute. And his face is not as shiny as Cameron. And he has eyebrows that are visible. How can he possibly be ousted?

Cute? He looks and sounds like Elmer Fudd! Balls has charisma? Oh dear.

If you think Milliband and co haven't got what it takes to lead a credible party, have a look at Scottish Labour! They make Milliband's lot look like charismatic intellectuals.

Worse than that, they make Alex Salmond look like a charismatic intellectual....

I think his big bro will come in and save the day before the election.

Dave will have to hurry. Ed Balls was doing a very passable imitation of George Osborne yesterday.... won't be reversing any of the cuts (there's a surprise) ... but doesn't think they ever overspent.

<Sits down with a to ponder the logic of that one>

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Ed Miliband.

ROFL.

I'm still pondering how Labour will try to sell their economic credentials by claiming the coalition are cutting too fast and too deep whilst at the same time saying they'd make the same amount of cuts and won't be reversing any of them.

Better still.... Milliband is now saying that public sector workers should be prepared to take pay-cuts in order to keep as many people employed as possible. What's that expression? 'Might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb'?

He like the creepy man who lives down the end of every ones road with his strange wife

The whole thing is very odd this getting married thinking the electorate would like it David didnt even go to his wedding

To be fair I rather think the unions picked the wrong man thinking they would have puppet mouth piece

David M must get a laugh every sodding week

He just reminds me of the teachers

Pet

niceguy2 or saying we need to brrow more and keep spending to cut the debt

He is shite.

Dave M needs to step back into the ring. He's very quiet these days, is he still an MP .

Didn't like Ed Balls until recently. Yes, I think he would wind up DC.