Petition to get Richard III buried at York minster

(81 Posts)
Bunnygotwhacked Tue 30-Oct-12 12:07:30

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Just that really if you agree would be great if you could sign this

laughtergoodmedicine Tue 30-Oct-12 12:11:31

Is the evidence strong that the bones are the right bones. Or was it all tongue in cheek. I wonder?

Bunnygotwhacked Tue 30-Oct-12 12:19:06

They are still waiting for confirmation but if it is him they are wanting him buried in Leicester according to the bbc

LoopyLoopsOlympicHoops Tue 30-Oct-12 12:21:51

/Why on earth does it matter where he is buried? confused

WorraLiberty Tue 30-Oct-12 12:23:05

Tourism and £££££'s Loopy

LoopyLoopsOlympicHoops Tue 30-Oct-12 12:23:48

Leicester needs that more than York.

LoopyLoopsOlympicHoops Tue 30-Oct-12 12:24:42

A nice glass coffin in Greyfriar's car park would be perfect

Saltire Tue 30-Oct-12 12:26:14

If he was King then surely he should be buried at Westminster Abbey, is not where they all are buried?

expatinscotland Tue 30-Oct-12 12:28:25

Has it been proven the bones are his?

He may also have been a murderer who usurped the throne by murder.

trixie123 Tue 30-Oct-12 12:29:28

No, Henry VIII is at Windsor, John is in somewhere like Peterborough, (he died at Newark). Regardless of if you think he was a good or bad king /person, IF the bones can be reasonably identified as his then yes, he should have a royal tomb, though ideally at minimal public expense - maybe the Richard III society could raise funds?

Bunnygotwhacked Tue 30-Oct-12 12:35:46

he supposedly had close ties with York and apparently wanted to be buried here www.historyofyork.org.uk/themes/medieval/king-richard-iii-and-york
though that source does come from the richard iii museum in york so might be biased

expatinscotland Tue 30-Oct-12 12:36:46

If he's a murderer then he shouldn't get much of a burial, IMO.

TunipTheHollowVegemalLantern Tue 30-Oct-12 12:38:12

I don't think it's made up, he started to build a chantry chapel in the Minster.

I'm torn tbh. I don't think there's much doubt it's where he wanted to be buried, but Leicester Cathedral could do with the tourism boost whereas the Minster is not short of visitors.

sue52 Tue 30-Oct-12 12:43:03

Is Leicester Cathedral Catholic? I assume he would have wanted full Catholic burial rites.

TheDeathAndGories Tue 30-Oct-12 12:45:24

York would make sense. Wasn't he the last king of the house of York?

TheDeathAndGories Tue 30-Oct-12 12:46:31

As for being a murderer, most royalty were in those days.

expatinscotland Tue 30-Oct-12 12:48:50

True, but his was murder of one who should have been the rightful king. The 'boy' Edward was 13 when he disappeared. He was preparing for coronation, well aware of succession.

TunipTheHollowVegemalLantern Tue 30-Oct-12 12:50:28

Both places are CofE.

FlobbadobbaBOO Tue 30-Oct-12 12:53:19

I'm confused about this, aren't the bones supposed to show signs of a hunchback when in reality he didn't have one? It was only Shakespeare who gave him the hunchback, he was apparently considered to be a very handsome man and very strong. He was married at York, crowned Prince of Wales there and grew up at Middleham Castle so if it is him York would be the choice.

TheDeathAndGories Tue 30-Oct-12 12:57:19

Oh I do t think we should give him a lavish funeral or anything but if we want to do it properly and also help the economy then stick his bones in York somewhere in a catholic bit

sue52 Tue 30-Oct-12 12:58:13

Would he allowed a Catholic funeral mass at a Cof E place of worship?

PrettyPrinceofDarkness Tue 30-Oct-12 13:11:41

I agree turnip. Leicester would benefit more from the tourist trade, but if it was his wish.... Reading the comments on that petition, I am surprised by how strongly people seem to feel about it.

TunipTheHollowVegemalLantern Tue 30-Oct-12 13:11:43

Well he's certainly going to miss out on those 100 priests to say Masses for his soul that he had planned....
Mind you, it was 500 years ago, surely he's out of Purgatory by now?

TunipTheHollowVegemalLantern Tue 30-Oct-12 13:14:44

Yorkshire has a very strong regional identity. A lot of people around here fly Yorkshire flags and make a very big deal of it.

Oneminute Tue 30-Oct-12 13:15:11

Lots of historians argue Tudor propagandists were responsible for Richard's "evil" appearance. You can track the changes in his physical appearance in paintings etc as the propaganda against him becomes more extreme. Shakespeare was in the pay of a Tudor monarch. (vague memories of a course at university many years ago...)

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