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Less emissions

18 replies

MardyBra · 22/01/2011 01:39

here

FEWER!

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nickelbabysnatcher · 22/01/2011 11:36

don't start me on that!!!

every time i see it i growl/snarl/shout " FEWER!!!!! " Angry

it's even on a hoarding and i shout it as we drive past!

MadAboutQuavers · 22/01/2011 11:47

Yep, drives me mad too!

It's such a simple rule too - if you can measure it it's fewer if you can't it's less

So few people seem to get it Confused

onimolap · 22/01/2011 11:48

Interesting example - could be either, depending on whether they mean less of one type/source of the emission, or fewer types/sources.

fanofpeamum · 22/01/2011 11:49

Made my blood pressure shoot up just seeing the thread title! What a relief to discover it was only you guys complaining about it Grin

onimolap · 22/01/2011 11:55

My pet hate is "use less plastic bags". I'll use one that's less plastic if they'd supply it!

nickelbabysnatcher · 22/01/2011 12:06

Quavers Confused

you measure flour, but it's less....

do you mean if you can count it it's fewer if you measure it it's less?

FreudianSlippers · 22/01/2011 12:09

Flour is like sand. You can have less sand or fewer grains of sand.

With flour it's 'less flour' or 'fewer ounces' because you can't count 'flour' only the measurements iyswim.

nickelbabysnatcher · 22/01/2011 12:10

yes, that's why i used it as an example.

you put less flour in the bowl to make it weigh less.

FreudianSlippers · 22/01/2011 12:16

You were querying the rule. And looked confused.

The rule is if you can count it, it's fewer, if you can't it's less.

So flour is less because you can't count it.

You can have fewer bananas for example as they come in units. But if you mashed up some banana and spread too much on your sandwich, you'd need less banana. And better sandwich fillings.

The measuring where flour is concerned is imposed by us and in units in which you can count.

WillieWaggledagger · 22/01/2011 12:18

oh yes that fucking advert grrr

onimolap · 22/01/2011 12:20

An handy aide memiore I heard was "less soup, fewer spoonsful".

MardyBra · 22/01/2011 12:28

spoonsful or spoonfuls? [controversial]

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FreudianSlippers · 22/01/2011 12:40

Either is considered acceptable MardyBra. Spoonfuls is more common nowadays but as a compound noun once upon a time it would have been normal to hear spoonsful.

I prefer it to conform to the rule and would say spoonsful though.

nickelbabysnatcher · 22/01/2011 12:42

spoonsful sounds better - less bulky, iyswim.

MinnieBar · 22/01/2011 12:43

Less custard, fewer prunes.

[boak]

nickelbabysnatcher · 22/01/2011 12:44

Freudian - i wasn't querying the rule, i was querying Quaver's writing down of the rule. If you look, she put "if you can measure it it's fewer if you can't it's less" - I assumed it was a slip, so I put the confused face t oshow that it had been noticed Wink

FreudianSlippers · 22/01/2011 12:56

Aah I see. But I think measure is fine assuming you mean standard of quantitative comparison. But should be 'when you measure it it's fewer, if you can't it's less'.

But yes, count is clearer.

MadAboutQuavers · 22/01/2011 23:50

Sorry.

That should have been the word "count" in my sentence, not measure. That's what I was taught at school, if I remember correctly.
As you were Grin

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