http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6924035.ece
theyoungvisiter
Fri 20-Nov-09 10:59:37
sorry I'm confused - do you mean Valentine Low? I thought the article was a good one - how is it derogatory?
[unlike dear Mr Tweedie's of the Daily Telegraph cough cough]
Or do you mean the comments?
WhatDidISayRoy
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:00:02
i thought it was quite a good write up actually. but perhaps IABU not you 
SkipToMyLou
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:02:48
The only part I object to is the definition of Mumsnetters at the end:
"Degree-holding, middle class cappuccino drinkers who hate private schools and bad grammar. Users are cliquey and caustic as they discuss topics from pushchair tips to politics in a language filled with acronyms (like IYSWIM and DH if you see what I mean and dear husband)."
Quite sweeping generalisations based on a small census, no?
WhatDidISayRoy
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:05:15
yes i agree skipto especially if they saw the threads about those on benefits and how they can kick off.
MN is a huge mix of people from all walks of life.
Tis true that we can be caustic though 
theyoungvisiter
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:06:24
I could be wrong - but I suspect that part might have been added by a sub. Often the bits around the edge of an article (the side bars and the emboldened quotes) are done by someone else.
The person I objected to was "Dave" describing us all as bimbos. But there's no point in engaging with people like that - he's just a troll with an issue.
Your link: Times online
What a twatty article (BUT GO RIVEN!!!
) and a few bloody twatty comments too.
I don't see how a mother asking about general provisions for her SN daughter is anything other than an extremely sensible question and a very valid point!
'His answer to the nappy question was: I will look into this. With Ivan I dont remember being limited like this. The move to personal budgets and direct payments should help, but let me get back to you. '
Well no that's because your expenses probably covered it so why would you care?!
CarryOnDancing
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:46:34
'Politicians Ed Balls, David Cameron and Gordon Brown have appeared in webchats only to be harangued about their biscuit choices.' I find this somewhat insulting.
Some really well written political questions were asked throughout the thread and this quote just suggests we couldn't think of anything intellectual enough than food preferences.
I think the article tries to belittle perfectly valid issues (such as nappies) to suggest some people were just set on harrassing Cameron. If its an issue important to a voter one would imagine it would be of prime importance to the man trying to bank that vote.
Well done for persevering Riven, I hope you finally get your answer!
I began reading the interview in the hope Cameron would gloss my doubts, now I've been left with more.
MayorNaze
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:51:56
perhaps we could respond to the comment posted by one david murphy - would you like to come and have a webchat with us? 
CarryOnDancing
Fri 20-Nov-09 11:55:40
I like Bob Wirrals 'Medical Fact'!!
(comments)
mollyroger
Fri 20-Nov-09 12:00:38
Bob from the Wirral, who claims ''when females have babies there brains go a bit haywire(medical fact) this would probably explain it!''
needs a good slap round the chops with a dictionary.
SoupDragon
Fri 20-Nov-09 12:02:08
"language filled with acronyms (like IYSWIM and DH if you see what I mean and dear husband)"
Sh*t. does DH not mean dick head then?
" who hate private schools and bad grammar. Users are cliquey and caustic as they discuss topics from pushchair tips to politics in a language filled with acronyms (like IYSWIM and DH if you see what I mean and dear husband). "
Yep. About right.
And the comments? Does that mean I am a bimbo?
Ooh how thrilling. Never in my wildest dreams <flutter eyelashes>
Sorry - yes, article was fine- it was the twattish comments that annoyed me.
"MrsNeilTweedie wrote: Im embarrassed how rude and hostile people on here are being."
This is fantastic! MrsNeilTweedie is a v funny namechange in response to Mr Neil Tweedies nasty little article in the Telegraph. I knew eventually the internet would eat itself.
theyoungvisiter
Fri 20-Nov-09 12:20:57
I think Bob is a mumsnetter. The bad grammar combined with the rampant sexism just pushes slightly too many buttons 
Thus speaks someone who knows MN. If only he could have slipped in something about fruitshoots...
mollyroger
Fri 20-Nov-09 12:22:53
ha, never thought of that TYV...though I do love (medical fact}
Women know about kittens (medical fact)