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Mumsnet Discussions: Mumsnet live webchats : are we getting too big for our own boots with these (42 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Aitch on Thu 09-Oct-08 12:39:51
i thought tp was good, didn't notice much rudeness towards him. [sleep-deprived]
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Wickedwaterwitch on Tue 07-Oct-08 13:13:47
I don't think 'come on mn if you think you're hard enough' but I do think it's fair enough to expect some challenging questions, although I also think we should be asking them politely.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By cocoleBOO on Tue 07-Oct-08 12:29:12
I thought TP came across very well, I think he started using the xxoxx after a question from me where I'd put hug and kisses on it.

Because I'm nice and welcoming grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ahundredtimes on Tue 07-Oct-08 12:01:40
I have just written at length on that thread about how I hate the 'Come on MN if you are hard enough' attitude. It's horrid.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By EffiePerine on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:50:11
I think Tony came across very well (asn was ratehr surprised)

yes to moderation - we can express our ire elsewhere but if we've invited them on we can at least be polite

I'm assuming MNers are capable of asking difficult questions without resorting to abuse <granny>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By FioFio on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:44:06
i thought tony parson was fair game

have no iea who the sheraz lady is

think earl;ier chat would b better as less drunkeds about
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:41:54
oh happy wall! to bear the weight of Magnus

sorry will return to balloon blowing responsibilities
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By JustineMumsnet on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:41:39 (from MNHQ)
Please post your thoughts on who you want us to try and get for a chat here
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:40:37
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:40:07
what about Magnus Scheving
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Flamebat on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:33:41
Can we not tell Rowling she needs to publicise Beedle?

Oooh or Stephenie Meyer - get her please grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WeirdCod on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:33:09
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WeirdCod on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:32:26
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By JustineMumsnet on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:31:34 (from MNHQ)
Hello all,

The way that online chats come about is twofold. First we do often ask people to come on and we periodically consult on this and we'll start a new thread on this now.
Realistically we're probably not going to get JK Rowling any time soon (but we'll keep trying). Lots of folk also approach directly us because they want to plug something - a book or a show or just themselves, sometimes it's part of a paid for deal. Tony Parsons' publishers did some advertising on the boards and we threw in the online chat as part of that deal.
Scheherazade Goldsmith wasn't advertising/paying but she approached us and we thought she'd be interesting (maybe that was a bad call hmm - we were a little surprised by the level of hostility I must admit). Had she braved it out though she might well have won us over like TP, with a few notable exceptions, did.

On balance I suppose we'd rather folks didn't have to steel themselves to come on Mumsnet or we're going to get ourselves a reputation and they'll stop coming. Certainly it's a bit cringy our end when several folk come on and say something along the lines of, "who the hell are you?" or worse. There does sometimes seem to be a bit of a feeding frenzy mentality and, given our druthers, we'd rather not appear to be rude/smart-arsey/bitter and twisted to the outside world.

Having said that we absolutely think everyone should be able to question what our guests stand for/ their opinions, along the lines of Scummy's question last night, without fear of censorship. That's perfectly valid I think and we do warn anyone coming to expect forthright questions/responses.

One thing we could do is to moderate a bit more on these threads - go in and say calm down or stick to the topic or don't be rude etc for instance like our old mods used to do - I think that might help?

Another thing we'll do is to consult with you when someone approaches us - to check the interest/hostility level and keep trying to get the guests people want.

Thanks for bringing this up - think it needs some discussion. Let us know your thoughts.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:05:47
Start a thread MP so I can suggest dh does impressive acrobatics in a lycra suit.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:04:08
I've taken day off work to worry about it

I've got blisters from blowing up soo many ballons - I've bought these HUGE balloons though which are a metre tall and they are GREAT - they were only 60p each from a local cheapy shop. I have filled up my conservatory with balloons. I have made the lounge into a disco. I need to give some thought to what they will DO. And I need to make some party food...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Cappuccino on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:03:04
"Not quite sure how I brought my norks into it"

oh such false modesty mp

you were going to force your norks or your big knickers in to the thread somehow. You were talking to a man over 40 after all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:02:08
How is party prep going MP?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 11:01:21
I thought he was v. good

I like seeing how people respond to webchat - their previous skills notwithstanding, it can be interesting. He was a very good guest, I like it when they are typey typey typey without too much in the way of careful and measured responses.

Not quite sure how I brought my norks into it, that is due to it being too late at night and me having just blown up 200 balloons
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Cappuccino on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:59:04
yes SG was ridiculous

proper experts rather than stars I think
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Cappuccino on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:58:16
I think people are more likely to be rude late at night

but also wonder if it is best if they start off in a new thread, with mn towers editing the questions down to start it with
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MrsJohnCusack on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:54:31
yes you have a good point cod
but I did have tears of mirth running down my face at points during the TP chat (have just read it all)

HOWEVER I think there are plenty of guests that we could get that wouldn't induce such rudeness (because it is a bit toe-curling). SG was a ridiculous idea (sorry MNHQ) and TP is one of those people that many find utterly infuriating
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Eniddo on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:46:53
I dont read/listen/take part in the webchats as they are always rude and I find it embarrassing
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By snice on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:45:52
TP came on to promote his book-so whatever happened for him it was worth it. However I do think it descended a little into who could be more of a clever dick and basic courtesy went out of the window.

It was quite funny though
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsruffallo on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:45:24
I find it a bit embarrassing when posters are very rude.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:42:10
Think he was called a twunt rather than a cunt but [shrug].
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TiltingAtWindmills on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:34:58
Was surprised that the actual chat took place on the original thread announcing it, but apart from that...... meh.

He got publicity.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Wickedwaterwitch on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:32:02
I think it was fine last night, he didn't asnwer scummy's PERFECTLY reasonable question though and fair enouh that people asked him to.But other than that, TP is a big boy and can look after himself imo. OK, calling him a cnt was pushing it but it was deleted, no? (skimmed this am, went to bed at half ten last ight)

Shereddarzi or whatever she's called was ALWAYS going to be a BAD choice, c'mon!

So no, I don't think we're 'too big for our boots' - I think this is on the whole an intelligent site and guests should do their research and know what they're letting themselves in for. If they don't, well, more fool them, frankly.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:22:44
Do you think it would make a difference if we knew which chats were being sponsored i.e. paid for?

Do you think we would be politer or do you think it would just be a(n) horrific tirade of embarassing abuse??
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By EachPeachPearMum on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:15:11
perhaps he thought we were <whispers> Netmums?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By umberella on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:05:27
she got run out of town

can't find link but it ws hi-larious
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By squeaver on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:04:47
I must admit I thought he did ok apart from all the xxxxooos at the end of his answers (or was he being ironic?).

But if they (or their people) are any good they should realise what they're getting into before they come on.

On a purely technical note, it's a bit annoying scrolling backwards and forwards to see what question they're actually answering.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Mercy on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:01:24
What happened? (in a nutshell)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WeirdCod on Tue 07-Oct-08 10:00:09
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By EachPeachPearMum on Tue 07-Oct-08 09:58:29
I think TP actually took it really well!
He's still a twunt though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 07-Oct-08 09:13:55
I'm just trying to re-read last nights webchat but my computer is sooooo slow this morning.

I do remember thinking before he came on how rude and rejecting everyone was... but then I also found out that for some of those posters it was because they thought he was misogynistic so I lost a bit of sympathy.

Like I said I think it would be good for us if we had a preparation thread for us to dissect the guests and hone our insults debates. Not least because we look like twats when we miss out on pinning someone down on something or holding them to account.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 07-Oct-08 09:03:30
I don't think so. I think that it helps when the people who come on are requested though, maybe less likely to bring about resentment.

But but but, we are especially irreverant which is good but must be frustrating for mnhq and annoying for visitors.

I think it would help if we slagged discussed oncoming visitors in a separate thread.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Tue 07-Oct-08 09:02:27
SG was baaaaad - just the worst choice EVER

But yes I do feel that basic courtesy is slipping
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Flamebat on Tue 07-Oct-08 08:55:46
Ooooooooh yeah I eremember
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WeirdCod on Tue 07-Oct-08 08:53:21
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Flamebat on Tue 07-Oct-08 08:51:48
SG?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WeirdCod on Tue 07-Oct-08 08:48:56
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