Council Tax benefit now taking maintenance into account...

(54 Posts)
mama2moo Sun 17-Feb-13 19:43:13

How is this fair? It basically means that £77 of my childrens money will now have to pay my council tax bill.

Has anyone received a letter about this? I hope they dont take this into account for other things that help me out.

kinkyfuckery Sun 17-Feb-13 19:47:06

Since when?

sydlexic Sun 17-Feb-13 19:48:36

How can it not be fair? I have never understood why maintenance wasn't counted for tax credits or council tax benefit.

mama2moo Sun 17-Feb-13 19:50:22

My view is that the money I get from my ex is for my dd's. It goes towards their clothes, food, birthdays etc. Its not my money.

They have changed council tax completely by the looks of it. I had my letter yesterday.

kinkyfuckery Sun 17-Feb-13 19:52:39

Well, yeah they're changing all the out of work benefits to a 'universal credit' are they not? Just wondering where I can find information about child maintenance being taken into consideration?

happyinherts Sun 17-Feb-13 19:53:32

it may not be 'your money' but it is to keep a roof over your children's head - whether it be clothes, food, or housing / living costs. It is income - I have never understood why it's been disregarded before.

purpleroses Sun 17-Feb-13 19:55:37

Council tax benefit is now being designed by local authorities. So it works in a different way in each area.

Seems fair enough to me really - if you compare one lone parent who gets £100 a week maintenance (but earns nothing) to another who receives nothing from her ex (or is widowed) but earns £100 from her job it seems fair that both pay the same council tax.

mama2moo Sun 17-Feb-13 19:56:45

I am in South Somerset so it may be different for different councils?? I have tried to find it online. Look up your local council and it should be on their 'council tax change' part of the website.

lol I wish I could argue some of my income is "for my dds"

Sounds totally fair to me.

My view is that the money I get from my ex is for my dd's. It goes towards their clothes, food, birthdays etc. Its not my money.

hmm Right, cos that's how it works isn't it.

lockets Sun 17-Feb-13 19:58:40

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I should get a regular CSA payment from my ex but have not received any for months and I would imagine that is the same for a lot of people, so if the calculation of what they you to pay includes monies which have not actually been received into the household income what happens then ?

It is fair, one LP should not be treated differently from another because they're paid maintenance.

I can't see anything on the PDF about paying from maintenance but I skim read it. www.southsomerset.gov.uk/housing-and-benefits/benefits/changes-to-council-tax-benefit/council-tax-reduction-scheme-and-draft-scheme/

usualsuspect Sun 17-Feb-13 20:06:49

Exactly. what happens if you don't receive your maintenance for a few weeks?

usualsuspect Sun 17-Feb-13 20:07:05

Or months?

Tough shit?

sydlexic Sun 17-Feb-13 20:07:05

I have posted this before, it is 100% true.

Three woman that work in an office one gets £1500 per month maintenance plus wages plus tax credits. The second gets her wages, the same tax credits but her estranged DH pays no maintenance. The first person has one less to feed and clothe but is £1500 better off.

The thiird works twice as many hours has the same income gets no tax credits, the first two will do no overtime as they won't work for what they can get for free.

A system that allows this is crazy.

lubeybooby Sun 17-Feb-13 20:07:10

The disregard is because of unreliable absent parents of whom there are many, who suddenly stop paying maintenance and leave the LP in the shit.

mama2moo Sun 17-Feb-13 20:08:08

I think they would take what you actually receive into account, not what you should.

sydlexic Sun 17-Feb-13 20:08:50

Lubey, there has to be a better way to make the absent parent pay, as a country we cannot afford to pay for them and why should they get away with it.

mama2moo Sun 17-Feb-13 20:10:05

£1500 a month maintenance? Blimey! I want more hours in work so that I don't have to claim top ups.

usualsuspect Sun 17-Feb-13 20:10:06

They shouldn't get away with it, but they do.

Happy for the women and children to suffer are you?

lubeybooby Sun 17-Feb-13 20:12:40

sydlexic I agree but after, what... twenty years plus of the CSA they have never managed to sort out a foolproof way so I doubt that will ever change.

whateveritakes Sun 17-Feb-13 21:58:20

How can this ever work?
Council tax is supposed to be paid in advance (which is why if you default on a months payment they want it all). How are they supposed to work out how much you got, in advance of you getting it. Either it'll be done in arrears from last years payments or everyone will need to go in every time a maintenance payment changes/stops.
Basically if you are rich enough at the beginning of April to pay the lot you can keep all your maintenance. If you pay monthly you could be in serious arrears if you don't get the expected maintenance. How the heck can you say what someone else who isn't part of the household will or won't be contributing?

seaofyou Mon 18-Feb-13 08:39:47

I don't get a penny maintanence and am a full time carer to my DS. I am being made to pay council tax too under these changes in April toosad

happyinherts Mon 18-Feb-13 13:31:43

As I understood it everyone who up until now hasn't paid council tax because of being on Income Support will now pay up to 20 per cent?

Everyone uses the services so I think this is fair. Everyone contributes something.

Meglet Mon 18-Feb-13 13:38:09

Fuckers angry.

I don't get counci tax benefit by the way. I'm just fed up with LP's getting more shit from this piss poor excuse of a government.

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