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I watched the BBC Nature program last night about Hawaii (called message in the waves BBC ) and found it really disturbing.

Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific and works like a net to catch all of the crap chucked into the ocean on the Pacific Rim. This means that the leeward side of the islands are covered in plastic - it looks like a landfill.

Worse is the effect this has on the wildlife, in particular the Albatross are really struggling - they pick up what floats on the ocean assuming it is food but it is plastic. They then feed this to their chicks. The chicks die and as they decompose the plastic they have eaten is exposed - plastic lighters, toys, toothbrushes, golf balls etc. Dolphins, seals and turtles are also dying because they get tangled in or try to eat plastic bags.

It is blatantly obvious that our consumer society is unsustainable. We have such a chuck away attitude to everything and it needs to change before it is too late.

You're probably all wondering where this is leading. Well, I have a challenge for those of you with enough of a sense of social and global responsibility to care. The challenge is to not use or accept a plastic bag for a month. When you go shopping take a reusable bag, leave the plastic bags in the shop and make a real difference to your environment.

For those of you who are brave enough I have a further challenge, the Rebecca Hosking Challenge: campaign to get plastic bags banned in your area/town/village. I am working up the nerve to do this where I live and shall update you on any progress that I make. Thanks for taking the time to read this and lets change the world today.

Can I accept a plastic bag if I reuse it as a bin bag?

Or do I have to buy real bin bags?

i use my plastic bags as bin bags too

did you see Grand Designs last night?
i was VERY impressed

I couldn't agree more Callisto. We have made a few resolutions in this house along the same lines, following a programme by Jonathon Porritt about consumerism.

I will try the plastic bag challenge. Thanks for posting this.

Environmentally friendly bags in aid of Mile for Maude (other designs in the other sections - the MN shopping List, Lemon Drizzle Cake, I'm Not a Fashion Victim (spoof Sainsbury's bag)

I read about Modbury the other day, it's a good idea.

We have big string bags (glamorous) and it takes only 3 of them to get our whole weekly shop in as they really stretch, so we never have to get plastic bags in the supermarket, then i've got a hessiany square green bag for local shopping. We can quite easily go a week without getting a plastic bag. Even in our local baker, you can choose plastic or paper - so obviously always go for paper.

Belgo and Nailpolish - I think you are missing the point rather plus you can buy biodegradable bags for your rubbish. And tbh if you want to discuss a tv program start a different thread please.

Callisto, you've inspired me, will also try no plastic bags!

You can get some really funky shopping bags - I've got a big bright stripy straw/hessian one which doubles as a beach bag. We use Tesco reusuables when we do the dreaded supermarket shop.

Callisto, that was uncalled for. The Grand Designs that nailpolish is referring to concerned a fully sustainable and ecofriendly house, so has relevance to this thread. Please lets not get back to the "this is MY thread!" mentality.


And Belgo asked a perfectly sensible question, rather than being condescending you could have just answered her, as you are obviously switched on and knowledgeable in this area.

what about food (lunch) bags though ? - I have never seen paper alternatives for sale - and I am fairly certain the plastic ones are not biodegradable (although not sure why they shouldn't be).

Callisto, ok i get your point about the bags

and the tv prog i was referring to is relevant to the thread

but you obviously have no interest in other peoples POV etc

cheerio

Throckenholt, you can use tupperware or similar for lunches, surely?

Apologies, but an eco-friendly house is a bit different to a ban plastic bags campaign. I can see your point but I don't want to dilute the impact of this thread either.

Biodegradable bin bags are available everywhere now and I assumed that everyone knew about them but for those that don't here is a link: here

If you don't want to do mail order most supermarkets stock them too.

jesus, are you always this narky?

sorry for "diluting" your thread

And wrap food in greaseproof paper rather than use sandwich bags

throck - sainsburys now do degradable plastic lunch bags (well it says they degrade 30 times quicker than plastic!). Or you could always wrap the sandwiches in foil instead (which can be recycled).

Lakeland have some blue jute bags which are only £3.50 each. We only need 4 into which we pack our fortnightly shop.

Callisto it's a great idea, but the only diluting will be if you're snappy with people who are showing genuine interest and they bugger off because they've been offended.

as I have obviously totally missed the point, I think I'll go out and do some shopping.

we reuse our Tesco carrier bags and then use them for binbags

BUT I have on order two crate things from Lakeland (will link in a bit) which you put in your trolley and take into your house, meaning you don't need bags

Most shops now ask if you need a bag iirc

and I noticed yesterday that Primark have brown bags now instead of plastic

Can someone buy me an eco-friendly house?

I'll gladly live in one, but I can't afford any house now, so I'm stuck with what my landlords put in, no matter how 'eco-friendly'.

I'll most obligingly accept any eco-friendly house someone has to donate, though .

As for lunch, how about putting it in a Tupperware container?

I mean, Duh!

Doesn't get squished in your bag, either, as it would if it were wrapped in greaseproof.

Then it could get all over my makeup, perfume, purse, etc.

Yuk.

oooh ekra, they might be the same things

will find them

I was wondering where all the brown bags went!

They're fab for ripening avocados, tomatoes and bananas.

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