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Sorry, all, and especially Ellie - busy work day yesterday.
Glad seeker and in a way others saw the point of my remark about Winner - it was meant to provoke the discussion that's happened here. My point was just that male opiners are not held to the same standard of looks/youth as women in the public eye.
I didn't want to discuss immigration in Lincolnshire, because for me it wasn't the point; Beard could have said that aliens came from the earth's core and still wouldn't have deserved the hate-laden tirades she got.
And a man would NOT be abused in the SAME body-related terms as she was, though I take the point that these sites are generally for abuse of all kinds. I didn't know they existed, and I'm kinda sorry I do.