Hello music post, I was very interested in your post. After failing with home ed for 6weeks I put my daughter into private ed, but now we like to try and get back into it, mainly for financial and practical purposes. She's 12 so in first year of secondary, she passed 11plus so is academically bright. I like the idea of jumping straight into igcses rather than ks2. I would like to ask you about Maths and English, do you choose to do these later rather than sooner? Do you think these subjects need more attention than the others? Cheers
Oh, and I wouldn't bother with Key Stage 3. We did that for a year with my elder daughter when she came out at age 12 and soon realised it was a complete waste of time - just a holding pen between primary school and GCSE. Even maths you can go straight to GCSE. You can always start at foundation level and then work up to higher. With my younger daughter we finished the primary curriculum and then went straight to GCSE. It's worked fine.
Also, you don't have to cover every subject at once like school. You can do two or three and then later, another two or three. This means you can move very fast in your chosen subjects.
Here's one thing you could do if your brother came out of school, which might satisfy your mum and give him plenty of time to follow his own interests.
He could pick say, two subjects he is interested in and look at the IGCSE courses for those. (They're basically international GCSEs and all colleges and unis will accept them as GCSEs - maybe better). You don't need expensive courses for these. If you go on here you can download the syllabuses which tell you everything to cover and suggest books that will cover them for you. You can also use the board Edexcel but we like Cambridge better as the past papers are easy to get hold of.
He could then do a little work in each of his chosen subjects with the aim of taking those IGCSEs in either the autumn or next summer (this autumn would be perfectly feasible). The rest of the day he would have to do whatever he wanted. Once he's done them he could do a couple more. That way he could easily have a good handful by 16 - maybe better than school if he is not doing well there.
My daughter is 13 and we are doing 2 IGCSEs at a time. This summer she is taking Biology and Sociology and we're kind of working towards Geography. She already has Physics which she took at 11. She's not a genius (!) just motivated and we don't waste time on stuff she doesn't want or need.
My 17 year old did 11 GCSEs this way with very little hard work or pressure. She never worked for more than a couple of hours a day! She is now in college doing A levels and doing very well, but she does moan about how much time they waste! Home ed is very efficient and so you have lots of time for other interests (Skylanders and Pokemon for my 13 year old )
I can give you much more help and give you some good yahoo groups etc if you think this route is a possiblity. One thing we loved was that my elder daughter got all her GCSEs without any of the awful pressure you get in school nowadays.
You sound very caring, he's lucky to have you as a sister!
Congratulations for your independent thinking . You, yourself can home school your D Brother aged 13 in subjects that interest both of you. You can also discuss plans between the two of you. Young people are incredibly mature and have clear minds. I home schooled my son since he was v young.
Your Brother can start self reading GCSEs subjects..
I have for you here an online resource that your Brother - and you - might like to use. There are two sites udacity.com and coursera.org with hundreds of courses run by the top-est world universities free and for all levels. Browse with him the categories' in the second site. Is he interested in Maths? he can self read the GCSE text and after his he can do the intermediate algebra. There are great English and History courses. Good luck
That's fantastic! I am really pleased to hear that your mum is willing to give the idea of home ed serious consideration.
It might be very useful to involve your brother in discussions of resources too. Perhaps you and your mum could narrow it down to several programmes which you think would suit him and then let him have a browse, or he could spend a day working through sample materials from each provider. He may be able to say fairly quickly and accurately whether he feels that he'll understand and be enthused by a particular programme, or whether it is a big turn-off for him!
My friends whose children are doing formal learning say it is very common to need to try various things in the early months in order to settle on something that works well for the child. It's a process of exploring and getting familiar with his learning style. This may be new to all of you, if your brother has never had the opportunity to work on something chosen specially for him but has instead been lumbered with whatever approach is standard at his school.
You might want to tell your mum that I was incredibly apprehensive about home educating my DS1 (ended up having no choice because his anxiety about school made him too ill to go), but the difference in him one year on is almost unbelievable. His confidence has grown, he is much cheerier and he is thinking about things that he wants to do in the future.
And if the home education doesn't work out, your brother can go back to school again. It is not a final choice. He could always go back to school to sit his GCSEs if that is what he wants to do later.
Thank you all for your kind words! I will have a look at the things you have suggested. My mother seems much more enthusiastic today and relalises that this could be the best thing for my brother. Now we need to decide what resources to use,
Hello, spwills. What a lovely big sister you are. Your brother is lucky to have you looking out for him.
I home educate my 13-year-old son because he was miserable at school, like your brother. He is so much happier now (one year since he left school) and often tells me how much he enjoys being home educated. Maybe it will help you to know what we did.
When we started out, I considered using Interhigh or Briteschool. I decided against these because they were costly and I suspected they wouldn't suit my son, but they might be worth looking at for your brother. I realise that money may be an issue, though, and there is always the problem that, as you say, the home education may not work out and then it's money wasted.
What I did pay for, in the end, was a course from Little Arthur Independent School, who specialise in home-education courses. I paid £135 for their one-year Science course, which gave me a textbook and regular marked assignments to do to ensure DS is keeping on track with the National Curriculum. He does one module every day. Of course, a lot of home educators would say this is a lot of money to pay for a textbook and a few marked assignments, but it gives me confidence that we are on the right track, and it is also cheaper and more flexible than the online schools. Little Arthur also provides courses on English, History and Maths, right up to IGCSE level.
I spend a lot of one-to-one time helping my DS1 with his work, which I realise your mother may not want or have time to do with your brother (especially with six children!). We do not use a set curriculum for the other subjects. We use Galore Park textbooks, internet resources, the library, DVDs and a tutor for Maths (because I'm lousy at Maths ).
I also wanted to say that although a trial period of homeschool would be lovely, it all depends on what curriculum we would be using. I don't want my mother to pay a lot of money for a curriculum or distance learning and then for it to not work out. That's why I'd love to know what other people use !
Thank you for your reply ! I love the idea of an autonomous education. However "school at home" would be a compromise between my brother and mother . She would be certain he is getting an education that will help towards later qualifications, and he would be able to explore his interests as well as do his school work . My brother leaves the house at 7 in the morning and doesn't get home until 6 in the evening . Homeschooling would allow him to do work in the morning and then use the rest of his day to explore his own interests and learn naturally.
I think my mother would be willing to come on here, as she has acknowledged the fact that homeschooling would make him a lot happier. I have hundreds or books on the subject, but she is so busy with 6 children to look after!
So I think an "academic" path would be right for my brother, and I think it's the best compromise that will also allow him to explore his own interests. School has changed him in a bad way and we hardly recognize him anymore .
Thanks again for your help, and if anyone uses or knows of a particular Key stage 3 and GCSE homeschool curriculum, I would love to hear from you!
I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm sure someone will be along soon with some suggestions.
Meanwhile, have you looked into the philosophy of autonomous education? By the sounds of it, this is what you yourself have been doing: choosing your own path and motivating yourself without your parents directing your education. However, by the sounds of it you chose a very academic direction, and besides that you were already 16.
If your brother were allowed to follow his own interests also, he might not make the same choices, at least initially. He's a different person who may not enjoy the same things as you, he has been demotivated by his school experiences, and his education is still your parents' legal responsibility. All of this might mean that if he were autonomously educated he would not choose to do anything which looks at all like "work" for a very long time, and that might worry them.
However, it still could be a very practical solution. He may need quite a long break from academics before he rediscovers his love of learning. In the meantime your mum would not have the challenge of trying to force him to do "work".
Given time, he will find his wings. He might then go on to do distance learning with enthusiasm, or he might go to college, or he might do something entirely different. Pushing too hard in the direction of formal study from the word go could backfire: it sounds like you and your mum have serious doubts that he would actually want to do the work.
If I were you, here's how I would put it to your parents: He isn't doing any work now. He isn't learning anything. He is miserable. In what way could a trial period of home education possibly be any worse than the current situation? Let him have a year off school with no pressure on, and see what happens. Many parents report that once all academic pressure is removed, their child's outlook is transformed. That could happen to your brother. And even if it doesn't he will be no worse off than he is now. At least he could have had some time to explore what makes him happy, and your whole family would have established that home ed isn't the way to go after all. What do you stand to lose by giving it a go?
Perhaps your mum might be easier to persuade if she heard it from people who've been there. Are there any home ed groups near you where she could go to talk to other parents who have taken teens out of school? If not, do you think she'd be willing to come here or on some other home ed forum to chat about her concerns and learn more?
So I'll start by saying that I am on mumsnet, but I am not a mother, or father . I am 18 years old and currently homeschooling myself through A Levels. I decided I wanted to homeschool 2 years ago after reading "The Teenage Liberation Handbook." I was not happy with school in general and this, along with other reasons, persuaded me that this is what I wanted to do. My parents supported me as I am an independent person, and I was old enough then to decide for myself how I wanted to be educated. However, they don't know much about home schooling, and think that school is just fine, so my brother and sisters go to school.
My 13 year old brother is extremely unhappy at school. He doesn't work, the teachers pick on him and has no good friends. He is desperate to homeschool like me. I currently use Oxford Home Schooling for my A-Levels, with brilliant tutors. But I am not sure if this would work for him, or be motivating enough.
As I have said before, my mother doesn't know anything about homeschooling, and is not keen on letting my brother quit school because she believes he won't work at home and will never get an education etc...
What I want to know is if anybody here knows of any good curriculum to use for homeschooling 13+. Something like distance learning would be good, as my brother would have the support from tutors. I'd really like to know what all you home schoolers use, in the hope of persuading my mother that this may be a serious option for my brother.