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if you're both working parents, how do you manage school times(33 Posts)
We're both full time working parents and have one DC approaching school age. Currently we manage the nursery (8am-6pm) with one of us doing the early (drop-off) shift and the other doing the late (pick-up) shift.
However, I have absolutely no clue as to people manage the school times; what happens when you need to pick up your DC at 3.30? I don't think either of us can realistically work such flexible times due to the reasonably senior nature of our jobs.
People we know either have one parent working and the other caring for the DCs or a live-in nanny: neither of which are an option for us! Our own parents are either too far away or too infirm to help much.
What do you do? Nanny share? Flexi-time? After school clubs?
All hints and tips would be appreciated!
After school nanny - a student type who is available on inset days and school holidays
Breakfast club from 7.45, afterschool club till 6pm. It's fantastic. The kids are with their friends from different years and they love it. They'd go everyday if they could. The club makes accommodations for afterschool activities they do on school premises, they can be collected later.
Wrap around care at £8.50 a day from 8am to 6pm
. It sucks but that's what we have to do. We are all knackered all the time.
A fairly complex jigsaw of after-school club, working from home, and sharing pick ups / drop offs with friends.
Like an enormous house of cards which frequently collapses round my ankles.
I do CM for DS1 and its great as my younger one goes too so only one drop off -school has a linked before and after school club - but I felt it would not be enough down time where as at CM he can flop a bit if wants too - teacher training days/snow days/holidays my CM will take if needed
just bumping this thread as we are having problems with no BC or ASC at our DD's primary school (well there is one but a 2 year waiting list!). DD is 5 and just wants to come home and relax after school. I am doing really early days two days a week (7-2) but work won't allow me to do any more than two. Mum fills in 3 days but that's not sustainable... I wish school hours were a little more working family friendly!
Breakfast club (from 8am) then afterschool club (until 5.30pm). We tried an au pair, but it didn't work out. Plus the local childminders don't tend to pick up from our school (it is very uncommon for the kids there to have both parents working full-time).
While we are on the subject, can I just ask how everyone copes with teacher training days? So far we have alternated taking leave to look after our two, but we're really struggling with holiday allowance this year and the school have just announced an extra two teacher training days for this academic year (taking the total to 8 days - or 1/3 of my annual leave).
My eldest started reception in September and i have 2 in nursery. Financially it is crippling us. We currently use after school club 3 days a wk when i'm at work but ds is shattered and gets no hot food for 3 consecutive days.
We have an au pair arriving in April as its just too much for everyone at the mo!
DD's school charge about £5 for breakfast club and around £10 for after school - children and fed and amused with themed activities. It seems really good and I might use it when DD is a bit older to give Granny a break. Does work out expensive if you do both sessions every day though.
We had to choose a school that had breakfast and afterschool club
It's not easy at first when you're 4 year old is shattered
School isn't the same as nursery in that they get exhausted
I know several people who used private schools as the day is longer - more afterschool clubs etc
It's not that bad economically as you just use the money you were paying for nursery on Sch fees however it can affect the decision to have more children because of cost
I'm a cm and offer after school, our council can filter the list to which school you require, our school has after school club but only until 5pm which is no good for a lot of parents. It's also about £2 a day do cheap. Just ring a few schools and see what they offer.
My dh works shifts so is often off for my work days,if he isnt he takes leave or starts late when i finish.This is the only way we could make it work as we have one baby and one 10yr old and the childcare is too expensive.
The other thing you will struggle with is after school activities.DD does brownies,dance and drama,all which require dropping off before the working day ends.
I always found it much easier to work with babies rather than school aged dc.
We have an after school club but dd hates it.The staff seem to just sit about chatting whilst the kids get on with it
Our school has wrap around care, so breakfast and after school club, which we pay by the hour so it's very reasonable. It also provides a holiday club, all on site so we have cover 8-6 51 weeks of the year, which helps. Plus they love it there.
We were luckily able to flex our time eg I moved to an early start and finished at 3pm 3 days. We both worked 4 days a week anyway so kids only had 3 days' childcare.
But I do see that this is difficult for a lot of people. I think in most couples I know, one parent either works shorter hours, or not so many days. They use after-school club or childminder or grandma to fill in any gaps.
TBH tho I am all in favour of being a working parent (I have always been one) I only know a handful of families where both parents work 8-6 evey day. It's perfectly possible tho, you just need to make sure there is breakfast and after school clubs at yr school. Or research childminders pronto. Not cheap tho - BC and ASC every day for that long at our school would cost you £13/day.
I have 4 so the nanny picks up the youngest from nursery at 1pm and stays until after tea about 7pm.
It's the only way I can manage all the after school clubs, team matches and the baby's bedtime routine.
More sensible people just have less children.
Different schools provide different sorts of wrap around care, and some don't provide any, so I'd start by looking at the schools in your catchment and see what they offer.
My ds goes to his school's breakfast club which runs from 7.30am, then after school til 6pm. They don't provide a meal for the later session, but give them a snack at 4ish (crumpets, cheese on toast, fruit etc). They are very chilled there and ds really enjoys it, especially as he's made some good friends with children other than just those in his class. They do loads of activities and sports, or he can just hangout and do nothing. The breakfast session is £3 and after school is £6.
For us it's the best option, especially as I am a teacher so don't need holiday cover/childcare (though the school wrap around care does also-ran holiday schemes).
Fantastic info, thanks! I'll look into what care the schools offer and childminder services too.
childminders usually charge by the hour, after school clubs by the session so if you aren't picking up until 6 after school would usually work out cheaper
not all after school clubs offer a school holiday club but some do
nearly all childminders will have children in the school holidays and occasional days
advantage of a childminder is a home setting as school plus wrap around care can make a long day.
what worked best for me was childminder until they were 7 then wrap around care from 7+ as they felt the childminder was too babyish -set up for preschool really -also after school club enables them to join in with after school activities like netball etc
If you do have a spare room, au pairs are perfect for this as the usual deal is that their hours will include post-school pickup, preparing dinner (which even if they're crap at cooking means at least hot pasta) plus two nights' babysitting a week. Lots of people hate having another person in their home, but you can get used to it quite quickly and it allows you nights out! Really recommend it- though do your research in finding a good agency you trust.
Ds's prep school does before and after school care. None of our local schools offered this so we had no choice but to go private (existing CM decided late in the day that she didn't want to do school run and we couldn't find anyone else to do the hours needed). It works well as ds can do after school clubs without me having to negotiate varying pick up times with the CM.
Wrap around care at our school is really reasonably priced. Unfortunately it is also heavily oversubscribed. Ds2 has a place in the mornings but is still on the waiting list for after school. His childminder is great, but considerably more expensive.
It's always nice for little children to be able to come back to their own home at the end of the day...
Thanks for the answers! What's wrap around care at school? Is that a breakfast club in the morning and some after school club? Are these economical? How did you decide on a childminder?
Sorry - so many questions!
Breakfast club, after school club, childminder, au pair, nanny.
Could you go in late a couple of mornings each so would only need bf club once/week?
Finish early one day and do a reciprocal arrangement with friend at same school, accounting for 2 days?
Afterschool club like football or French?
Council has list of childminders and that may tell you which schools they do. Good for holidays too.
After school nanny? Mother's help who can do pick up and make your supper?
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