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Yes, I know that they voted for it, some of us disagree, that's all.
Guide troops seem to very the activities that they offer based on the interests of their leaders, along with the level of religious commitment required, the local group are attached to the church and have had a lot of craft and makeover sessions along with brisk games and adventure weekends but not under canvas.
Some troops may be more rugged and camp in cold conditions and sail in the winter. Ours do not, unlike the local scouts.

Yes disagreeing with something is not quite the same as it being unfair though is it? shrugs

I've guided in 3 separate areas of England and don't recognise that old guiding stereotype that pops up on threads like this- it's just irritating.

Ok, but back to the OP.
Should her tender blossom be forced to wear something unflattering with dark coloured trainers just because the rest of her troop are expected to?
It's, like, so unfair.

'I think Scouts and fashion conscious Pre-teen girls is a difficult mix. And DD2 meets her partner in fashion at scouts which truly doesn't help.

I've never been sure that Scouts should take girls, Guides has moved with the times Scouts hasn't.'

And that, OP, is why my DS is a joyful Explorer at 18. Fashion really doesn't figure much.

I think anyone who truely knows either the Scouting or Guiding movements, know that they both regularly review all aspects of themselves - uniform, programme, age bands, the promise, the award schemes and badge schemes, the safeguarding regulations, the membership requirements, etc.etc., and both evolve over time.

agent - thanks .

point taken.
Soap box back under the sink.

I just don't get the problem. If she wants to be part of scouts, she wears the uniform. School shoes- what's wrong with them?
If she doesn't like it, she can face the consequences with the leader. Part of the discipline that people go to scouts for.
I was a beaver uniformed leader. I agree not flattering! But scarcely a big problem. I didn't join to wear trendy clothes
And my daughter is a scout now. The trousers are not her highest priority either.

This feels like such a mountain out of a molehill. And for what it's worth I I think scouting has really moved with the times and is a great organisation for boys and girls to be part of. And respect to the leaders who provide all that inspiration so freely!!

Cheap black clunky "school" shoes from ShoeZone just for this purpose? Can't see why not.