Got a place at Tormead for Year 2, should I move my girl?(32 Posts)
Hi, my daughter currently attends Pewley Down in Year 1 and seems very happy there, with many friends. I am bit concerned about her English - not her first language - she is not fluent enough and her vocablularly is poor. At the same time she is very bright, that's her teacher's view too. I planned private education for her from the beginning but she didn't get a place in Guildford High School twice so this year she sat an assessment in Tormead for Year 2 (without raising our hopes) and got a place.
Now I am at a crossroads. She would go private when it's time to change schools for Year 3 - that's for sure. But with her limitations in English I am not sure she would get a place with the main intake - so moving her in Year 2 seemed like a good way to secure a place. What bothers me is that from studying the Tormead web-site I didn't see much difference in curriculum and extra-curricular activities with what Pewley offers - unless I am missing something? And she is so happy at her current school.
Move your DD to Tormead they will help her along with her Engligh. GHS is really for the top 5% and its even more competitive since winning Independent School of the year. There is nobody who is behind on issues like speach and vocab in the GHS junior school. I have lots of friends very happy with Tormead. It appears much more nuturing and supportive than GHS (I have a DD there).
Send her to Tormead, you can always try for GHS at 11+ some girls do move between the schools.
I think Year 2 is a very good entry point, much easier to get into in year 2 than year 3 and allows your daughter to form friends before the intake in year 3.
So many responses! Thank you very much for your views!
I come from overseas so I really have very limited idea of local school. My son is going to Holy Trinity and while he has been very happy there, as a parent, I am not very sure about his education. He has limited general knowledge, he struggles with comprehension, his English is still not advanced as of some of his classmates and the only area where he is really good at is Maths - but I put it down largely to my husband being a Maths professor and doing lots of homework with him.
With my daughter, I have been hearing how bright and special she is ever since she was a toddler. At Pewley her teacher tells me that she is doing very well but her English is still limited. She is very happy there too - but I would hate it if 4 years down the road I ended up with the same situation with her as with my son.
We cannot provide them the same language environment as other families because we don't speak English at home. I am concerned that vecause of that they wouldn't be able to follow the school programme properly due to sheer lack of understanding and as a result will fall behind overall. It kills me when they read books for their age and don't understand all words or meaning.
My intention of sending them to private schools is based on the belief that private schools will eliminate this problem once and for all.
Next year my son will sit exams for the private boys school so we have been tutoring him. If he gets a place I will have to pay around 24K in fees for both of them. It scares me but I really feel lost.
Honestly I am not sure that private school will 'eliminate this problem once and for all'. They will get the same exposure to the English language at any school and unless they are offered extra language lessons at private school ( which you will prob have to pay extra for) I am not sure why it will make this huge difference.The language will I suspect fall into place from reading at home with you and speaking about the meaning of the text. From your messgaes, it is clear that your Enlgish is very good. I would be careful about making the assumption that private is better unless the 24k is easy for you to find. Im not saying it wont help your children develop their language skills quicker but its certainly not a foregone conclusion
I disagree Laura, private schools can do a lot to help due to smaller class sizes alone. I've seen several children come on in leaps and bounds due to dedicated teachers and small groups. One child spoke no English at nursery level and was fluent by the end of the first term. My own daughter spoke little due to glue ear/being bilingual and is now absolutely flying and very confident. Depending on the school they may also have a lot of experience with children who's first language is not English.
OP, I would not hesitate to move her!
OP you have given a lot of information on here, just be aware of that.
I also strongly suggest that you have a back-up plan for your son. The local boys private school is very competetive, and all the schools in Guildford have a lot of bright children. Have you discussed school choice with the head teacher of Holy Trinity? He is very highly thought of by the heads of a wide range of secondaries, private and state.
societyclowns, I didn't say that private school wont help, I said it wasn't a foregone conclusion that it would 'eliminate this problem once and for all' and I dont think you can say that either. I can site plenty of examples where private schools have brought children on leaps and bounds but also plenty where it hasn't. I have just moved my child out of private and into state because it wasn't offering anymore for her than the local school and when a child is happy I think caution should be applied. I just dont believe its a clearcut decision and where money is an issue it may be worth speaking to all the schools first about your daughters particular issue. As I said on my other posts if the OP is definite about private then I say move now not later definitely but if money is an issue I would hold fire, in my experience bright children do well anyway, particualrly in primary years
Laura, I agree with you, just wanted to say that in my own limited experience the private school may be more able to help. And as OP is going to move her anyway I wouldn't wait.
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