Areas where state schools are better than private?

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Narrie Mon 29-Oct-12 09:45:42

Does anyone live in an area where the state schools are really better than the private ones? I picked this up elsewhere but am afraid to comment there.

I have lived and worked in the Midlands where there are few private schools to choose but the state schools are not very good. I have lived in Nottingham, where again I felt the state schools were poor.

Even in London there were some awful schools and private was best.

I currently live in Cornwall having got here working in Exeter, Plymouth and Barnstaple. None of the state schools were good there.

Just wondered where the good state provision is. Is it just odd schools within a mass of poor provision or are there really whole areas where state schools are better?

Thanks.

(PS I have my own DC in a boarding school partly because of the state schooling and partly because we move around so much)

Mominatrix Thu 08-Nov-12 07:11:24

bucksfizzed, it also helps the child if the parent (mum in this case) employs him/her to boost her career. Nepotism is another aspect of the priviledge Xenia believes in.

exoticfruits Thu 08-Nov-12 07:11:52

It seems much the best way to me Arisbottle, I can't see why the future lawyer can't be educated with the future hairdresser or why you are called 'the dregs' if you happen to be artistic or practical rather the academic. Life would be rather fun if the lawyers had to get a friend to cut their hair! I prefer to get a good cut from someone who is skilled and loves their job.
I just love Xenia's summing up of universities 'Exeter for the posh but not so bright etc' - I think that sometimes I must live on a different planet! It is a shame if anyone takes it seriously and is put off places like Bath- (it isn't true, apart from possibly a small minority).

seeker Thu 08-Nov-12 07:19:24

Oh, was is Exeter that was for the posh but not very bright? Shame- I don't qualify after all.sad

MordionAgenos Thu 08-Nov-12 07:22:24

Exeter and St Andrews. Apparently.

exoticfruits Thu 08-Nov-12 07:38:47

And Bath is 'a bit similar' - maybe that means not quite as posh as Exeter and St Andrews and maybe a bit brighter.

Yellowtip Thu 08-Nov-12 08:19:39

Xenia is right about Exeter and St A., at least as a generalisation of where those two universities are perceived to be now. She didn't say you had to be dim as a necessary pre-requisite of getting in, just that the chances are that you're not quite up to the standard of Durham/ Imperial etc. Of course there are going to be zillions of exceptions to prove the rule, including lots who get offers from everywhere they apply to and choose Exeter or St A. over ones which are tougher to get into just for the sea air/ rah factor/ whatever.

They really are both pretty rah.

MordionAgenos Thu 08-Nov-12 08:44:35

To be fair Exeter has one of the very top business schools (for undergrads)- has had for decades. I doubt many of those students looked anywhere else as first choice, to be honest. Not least, because of provision.

seeker Thu 08-Nov-12 08:51:42

Oh, good. I do qualify after all! grin

GrimmaTheNome Thu 08-Nov-12 10:02:16

Funny how an OP asking about good schools has ended up as a thread about getting into a good university, like that's all that a school needs to do in order for us to rate it well.

Our local comp sends many children on to 6th form college, from where lots will go onto university of one type or another. But others will go to what seems like a rather excellent college which does 16-18 as well as higher qualifications in all sorts of useful subjects - especially in this rural area - farming, tree surgery, horticulture, vetinary nursing, etc etc etc.

Depending on your child, they might be far better taking this route into a solid, useful trade rather than going to the sort of school which focuses on getting university places, maybe gets hothoused in and then scrapes a poor degree.

Lancelottie Thu 08-Nov-12 10:27:50

Well, quite, Grimma.

Our list of 6th forms to consider includes an agricultural college, a technology college and a drama school. I don't suppose anyone from there will go to Oxbridge (though I could be wrong) but they surely have a high chance of fulfilling their own ambitions, and these may not be entirely chosen in order to give hypothetical future daughters a private education.

I didn't consider my possible future children when picking my A-levels, as I never expected to have any. I picked things I liked and was good at. Oh dear. Tough luck kids!

GrimmaTheNome Thu 08-Nov-12 10:36:16

>I picked things I liked and was good at.
so did I and it worked out just fine...I'm not sure that everyone who starts career planning in their teens always ends up as fulfilled as those who follow their passion.

MordionAgenos Thu 08-Nov-12 10:51:42

@Grimma while I completely agree that people should above all else pick A level subjects they are good at and enjoy (and indeed, the same with GCSE subjects, the insistence that very bright children should all do triple science 'because that's what clever children do' seems ludicrous to me) I know many people who followed their passion - which they identified in their teens. Thinking about it, I don't know anybody who has 'followed their passion' who didn't identify it while they were at school. Most of the people I know who are doing meh, drudgey jobs which don't fulfill them (either on purpose because they have never lived to work, but rather work to live, or by sad accident) fell into them after uni often partly because they didn't really think about it when selecting A levels.

DD1 has known what she wants to do since she was about 8. And it seems fair enough. DD2 assures me she knows what she wants to do (she is 9) but personally I'm not convinced it's a viable life plan grin. DS on the other hand has no idea so I am being very careful to encourage him to identify what he enjoys and is good at rather than just following the herd. Not that A levels will be happening any time soon for him, he's only in Y8.

GrimmaTheNome Thu 08-Nov-12 11:07:45

Yes... the 'career planning' I was dubious about is the sort which isn't following a passion but maybe more pushed by parents/teachers ...the 'if you do these subjects you'll stand a better chance of Oxbridge/RG place' type of thing.

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