Hi can anyone help me, iv just finshed ivf and had 2 embryos put back last friday 24/7 they were on day 3 of incubation, should i be feeling ot seeing any signs of it working or not working by now... it may be a silly question but i cant stop thinking the worst... has any1 got any information they can share with me?

Hi Aliz,
FWIW, I conceived the twins I am pg with (28 weeks) through Mr Gorgy's clinic on Wimpole Street. He worked with with Taranissi (from ARC) till a few years ago and then set up on his own.
we didn't have IVF, but ovulation induction with Puregon and buserilin, followed by trigger shot - then steroids (till 20 weeks) and heparin (till 30 weeks) and IvIG transfusions till 20 weeks.
We had been ttc for 6 years. 4 years on our own (no success) 2 years NHS fertility treatment, 3 pg's, lost all of them (twins at 6 weeks, single at 7 weeks, single at 9 weeks). Got and stayed pg 1st time round with Mr Gorgy. Turned out I have some immune issues that were preventing the babies from implanting and thriving. Can recomment Dr Alan Beer's book 'Is your body baby friendly'. Complicated but it does help to have a better clue of what the Docs are talking about! From other ladies at the clinic, it seems that Mr G offers the same treatments as Dr T, but cheaper, and with a shorter waiting list.
Needless to say, I adore him.
Sorry to hear about your disappointment this month - I so remember that awful rollercoaster and tbh am terrified and will be till these 2 are safely in my arms.
If I can be any more help, give me a shout...

Thanks LL. I am feeling much more positive. taking a break, drinking my raspberry leaf tea and starting again. havent done that in a while, but cant hurt. Do you think i should go with same hospital, with 45% chance of success or with that other hosp in london with 66% chance? cant think of name of doc (richest in england apparently) or name of clinic but it is really obvious name like Assisted Reproduction Clinic or something. is it worth going to another one with better chances? sounds obvious, but not sure. dh thinks we should go to new one. it makes sense that it must work some time. i just cant help thinking that the problem is with getting the little guys to latch on and i wish i could do something about it. i read a lot about early m/cs in last few days and now that i think about it over last maybe 12 months i had a lot of heavy clotting during afs, so perhaps i have been conceiving regularly and miscarrying v early and not realising.
What exactly is nuchal scan? i have an idea that it tests for downs, but you can correct me. i didnt have it done myself, wasnt offered it. all of these things are scary, but once it is over, you can heave sigh of relief and get on with it. now we can tell you to relax again, relax and it will be fine!!!! sorry that was a joke. BLOODY RELAXING IS OVER RATED!
anyway most importantly take care of yourself, put the feet up, roll on tues and it will be all over. xx

Ailz - on the one hand I'm sorry to read about your outpouring yesterday; on the other hand it sounds as though it may have been cathartic. I hope I'm not sounding trite when I say that you should be positive - and know from experience how bitterly hard that is when you're in the throes of a cycle not working. One of the most shocking realisations I've had in the past few weeks is that I don't really think, deep down, I EVER expected IVF to work for us, no matter how many times people told me to be positive and that I responded well so it should work. So many people have said to me re. my shock at expecting twins "but surely you must have known there was a big chance of that after IVF?". I can honestly say that I think my negativity was so entrenched that when it DID work, I certainly didn't expect it to have worked doubly well! Who knows what lies ahead (nuchal on Tuesday; terrified) but now that it has worked for me, the logic of what everyone told me beforehand has clicked into place a little. Even the best cycle with the world's most fertile couple producing the world's most perfect embryos is still a numbers game once they're inside you. And if all those other factors went well, then although of course it would have been totally fab for it to work first time, you just have to puff your chest out and take a deep breath and prepare yourself for the next time. You will get there, and there will be a sibling for your DD. Enough rambling for now - take care xxxx

Thanks a lot. here is to next time!

Pleased that you dealing this so positively - good luck next time!

Thanks LL, i had my wallowing, crying, feeling sorry for myself afternoon yesterday, but have talked to dh, sister, mum and feel better. really was ready to give up, but feel better today and ready to give it a go again in month or two. you are right i am good candidate, everything went well and responded well to it all, so should work some time.
Thanks orangepink my dh has a lot of hope still because my af is not very heavy. i think it is all over but it is good to hear success stories. i know it can take a few tries and i should be patient. congrats on your two successes! i have one dd and would dearly love to add to that. some day! hi dophus and caitni still bleeding, pretty sure it is all over (i know it actually) but will do test as instructed tomorrow, though i know outcome. i have actually come to terms with it after my outburst yesterday evening. i just felt very stupid, useless, angry with myself. i, just for 15 minutes, saw my life play out before me (as only we can do) and heard all the questions about why i only have one child and am i going to have another one and having to hate everyone who asks, and having to make up an answer to that question forever and imagining all my friends and family having babies forever and me not. it just all ran through my head like a freight train out of control, couldnt stop it and felt very very sorry for myself, but i am over it. it was shocking.

ailz just seen this - how are things today? Has the bleeding stopped? Thinking of you xx

Ailz - sorry to hear. good luck

Just wanted to wish you all the best. Have been a lurker for years but now finally moved to write my first post. I bled so much with my fifth IVF (from day 10 - 13 post embryo transfer) that I stopped the Cyclogest for a few days. The bleeding was heavier than a period. I don't want to give you false hope but I got a BFP on day 14 and now have a healthy DS2 (DS1 was the result of our 4th IVF). Thinking of you.

Oh bugger Ailz - sorry to hear that. If that turns out to be the case, please just remember that just five months ago my first cycle failed too and I was absolutely gutted, as everyone is when it happens. It feels as though it's never going to work and all those fears that "maybe I'm going to be one of those people it just doesn't work for" come flooding into the mind. Yet... my second one did, and of course I couldn't believe it etc etc etc. It's hard to be positive when it doesn't work BUT the things your consultant will be holding onto, and will no doubt tell you (IF this turns out not to have worked) is that you responded well to the treatment and that you are a prime candidate for IVF success.

had lots of bleeding today so pretty sure it is all over.

Still could go either way. It is quite early to test.

Thanks Dophus.
Londonlottie ok ok, no real update other than i caved and did a test and it was bfn. but not surprised or particularly upset because i know it is too early and it was a cheapie one (the teeny little strips). i had to. i am not telling dh, but i think he will get it out of me because he always can read my mind.
Bleeding is just about gone (teeny tiny brown mark for last two days)
what do you think? it is day 12 since ET

implantation bleeds occurs 7-10 days after ovulation - the time taken to reach the utuerus.

I had this for my first pregnancy but not my subsequent 3. Also a sizable blob.

Come on missus - what's the update?!

oops finished a bit early there. i know the feeling, you want the symptoms to stop and when they do you start to panic. it is perfectly normal for MS to ease off at this stage. for my sister recently all MS was gone and then she opened some meat and threw up immediately, she was quite shocked.
very excited to see how your scan goes, imagine - babies!!!

I dont know if i will last. i am trying, but we will see x

Feeling okay thanks... wishing the next week to hurry up so I can get my 12 week scan out of the way. The sickness has diminished which is good in a way, but leaves me wondering if all is well...

Keeping my fingers crossed for you today - take it very easy! If you last till Saturday without testing you are a stronger woman than me!

Great LL, just a bit dazed i think. yes i think it is starting to look a bit like implantation, however i am prepared for anything! how are you, still a bit queasy?

Was wondering how you were doing today Ailz

Great news that the bleeding is dwindling away. I can only give you my experience - with my negative first IVF cycle I had no bleeding whatsoever until AF started, and although it was lighter than normal it was pink and then red and was pretty obvious almost immediately that that's what it was. I had no spotting prior to that.

With this successful cycle I had a sizeable blob of blood at 11dpo (8 days past 3 day transfer) and feared the worst. However there had been no more bleeding by the next afternoon and so I tested to get a BFP. How are you feeling otherwise?

I am testing saturday. if i can wait that long! i am really going to try.
yes i agree it is impossible to say. the test is the only sure thing. few more days!

I had light bleeding at around 5 weeks pg with all 3 dc's. Was more blood that I would have expected for implantation bleeding but it seems very common.

It's impossible to say really. When do you go back for the test?

thanks everyone. i too had light bleeding when i was about 5 weeks with dd. i paid no attention but gp was doom and gloom too and sent me for scan, all was well thank god and she came along a many months later! Thanks for your kind wishes, i will keep my fingers crossed and stop checking like a maniac now. will let you know how it goes. thanks

I had implantation bleeding at around 5 weeks; it was approx a week after we had founf out that I was pregnant. There was dreadful cramping and light red bleeding that faded to brown for a couple of days. My GP was all doom and gloom but I had seen an emergency dr at the weekend when it happened and she had explained all of the possiblities and that it did not necessarily mean a m/c. This was followed up with testing hormone levels to make sure they were still rising and with an ultrasound. Many months later, we had our LO.

Good luck, big hug and will have fingers crossed for you, Ailz

I had some pinkish bleeding at around 5 weeks accompanied by bad cramping - too late for implantation? Anyway, ds is now 2.7 so all was well.

Bleeding can be normal in early pregnancy. There isn't always a cause. Good luck with things.

not ivf, so don't know how similar or helpful...

i read that implantation bleeds can coincide with when your period would be due, giving you a false impression that you've had your period, so 2 weeks after conception, maybe 10ish days after implantation (which would correlate with your experience wouldn't it?).

My own was much later, as it happens - maybe 24 days after implantation, but similar description - a little bit of what looked like blood fading away to brown then nothing after a day-ish.

Hope that helps you to relax a bit, and good luck!!

this is a very boring subject i know, but i am clutching at straws and asking everyone i know. googling etc. After first round of ivf, i am 10 days post embryo transfer. 2 embryos tranferred after 2 days incubation. yesterday got some pinkish bleeding, v light. turned brown today and has almost dwindled away to nothing. but it may start up again at any time! anyone have similar situation? i would appreciate the information, positive or negative. thanks. going mad