Natural birth at Lindo Wing?(15 Posts)
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Any decisions yet, Audrey?
Great, thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts and experiences, really means a lot!
My post below should say I went elsewhere do the birth when I got pg again.
Land sell has birthing pools as well, so maybe worth just double checking it isn't on the allowable list.
I think you have strong instincts about this for a reason. I was considering booking Lindo wing with my first baby. When I went on the tour the very kindly mw made it very clear that most of the mothers there have epidurals. There was quite a lot of comment on how the epidural would take all your pain away - must have been mentioned about 5 or 6 times. I asked about support for natural birth and I came away with the very strong impression that:
- many mothers there have elcs
- the vast majority or their vb mothers have epidurals.
- they have less experience supporting women wanting natural birth than I had expected
This is why they haven't bothered with pools etc in the refurb, I suspect, as their data shows they won't get used.
Sadly I then mc my baby and did opt for the Lindo wing for the mc care, which was second to none - I will honestly never ever forget their kindness.
But I went elsewhere for the birth and was lucky enough to manage to get all 9lbs of DS out on only gas and air, labouring almost entirely in the pool.
I think to have a successful natural birth you need supportive mw who will help you believe in your power to give birth without drugs. I had amazing mw who gave me that confidence.
Shame land sell at st thomas not on the insurer list for you as I was booked there with my second baby before we moved out of London. Car distance was the same almost as to Uch for us and mr otemg ntim is a very natural birth friendly consultant. He used to work closely with a wonderful mw - not sure who does the mw for him now as she has retired.
OP, why don't you visit/call the birth centre at St. Mary's and ask the midwives to recommend a consultant who is in line with what you are looking for and then see if she/he has a private practice? I guess the midwives there work less with consultants so maybe that wouldn't work. . .
Bath is definitely very lovely (if you ever fancy a change from London, I recommend it!), but the hospital is... My friends' maternity experiences here (one birth pool and more likely to get blood out of a stone than an epidural) and my early prenatal care (always very rushed, stressed midwife) made me panic and look for private maternity care. No private maternity care in this area (not even Bristol), but the in-laws have a house in St Johns Wood - so we made London work .
Completely honestly, if we conceive again (I have just started an ICSI cycle - drugs start tomorrow), I will go back to London. We now have a (just) 3 year old, but we will make it work. I think that a GOOD birth experience (and goot postnatal care) helped us to get off on the right foot with a new baby - honestly, invaluable!
Good luck choosing.
From Bath? That's quite a long journey! O_O
I absolutely adore Bath btw
Just because things often do go wrong it would be wise for me to be in a hospital which is included in my insurance policy list (they cover only complications but still) - and that would be either Lindo or QC Sir Stanley Clayton. Will concentrate on these two for now...
Thanks a lot ladies, it's really helpful, will do more research and thinking!
Agree with fgr - look around at the other private units too AND birth centres.
Shame John & Lizzies closed - that would probably have been just what you were looking for: I went there to get an amazing natural birth, with birth pool, constant midwife attention, but epidural on tap (if I felt the need) and consultant back up. Of course DS was breech and I had an ELCS in the end - doh! Things never quite turn out how you think...
(I live in Bath, so had to travel some way!)
Audrey. you can go midwife led at the portland which I did and they are very pro natural plus you have the back up consultant if things go wrong. All the gear like the pool, balls etc are there plus the mobile epidural which isfab.
Thanks a lot for your thoughts and comments ladies!
My local hospital is UCH so if I decide to go with NHS it would have to be there... Now I've only been there twice in my life but somehow it just wasn't right both times and the place instantly makes me panicky...
Plus I do want a private room after birth, I do want to see the same person throughout my pregnancy, I do want a midwife with me all the time during labour - I think it's worth paying for.
I did go on a tour (loved it), the message is "your money - your choice" but just like greenygrassy said, I get a feeling it could be quite different when it comes to the real thing.
The approach probably also varies from one consultant to another but I just will not be able to meet them all - simply too expensive!
I gave birth at the Lindo Wing three years ago and am booked for an ELCS (repeat -- first due to breech baby) this Monday. Why don't you book a tour and ask them your questions? Check out the birthing centre too and compare -- everyone seems to really like it.
I have no idea whether this is actually the case, or what the statistics are, but the impression I get is that a lot of women chose to go private because they want the freedom to have an elective CS and they don't want to be waiting for an epidural, so this is what the consultant expects patients to want.
If you really, really want a natural birth you might want to reconsider a private wing.
I went to the Kensington Wing at C&W wanting a natural birth with the most pro-natural OB in London. I did hypnobirthing and was all geared up to go totally natural. (In retrospect I wanted a natural birth but chose the set up least likely to lead to it!) The wing wanted to see me early in my labour (the NHS would never have asked me to come in). The pool room wasn't ready and I was put in a cold tiny room with nowhere to kneel but the cold hard floor and nowhere to sit but the bed. There was no ball and no mats! The midwives were all about the epidural and intervention and not at all interested in whale music or breathing. Long story short, I ended up with the birth from hell. I'm quite sure that if I'd been at home or in the NHS it would have all been fine.
During late pregnancy last time it did actually occur to me that the Kensington Wing wasn't quite right, but I thought I was buying the best care possible. I wish I had listened to the voice of doubt in my head.
Mine is just one story of course (though now that I think about it, of the 6 other women in my NCT who were at Portland, Lindo, Kensington or Sir Stanley Clayton, all 6 ended up with EMCSs (the only one who had a natural birth was in the St Mary's Birthing Centre), but I'm certainly not going private wing again!
Good luck with you decision.
Ladies, has anyone had a recent experience of Lindo Wing, especially if you were aiming for a natural birth?
Apparently staying active in labour is meant to help a lot but Lindo doesn't have any of the equipment and there's not much space to move around anyway... Is it still possible to have a 'natural' birth there? A bit worried about that
Also if you know which of the consultants are more pro natural birth, please let me know.
Thanks for any info!
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