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I also posted in weaning but thought I might get more/different responses here.

DD2 is 13 months old. Only ever breastfed, no bottles. Drinks water and juice through a straw but until recently never drank anything from sippy cup

I can now get her to take about 50ml cows milk twice a day from her sippy cup.

But more often than not (ie 80% of the time) she seems to vomit it all back up.

She still has three BFs a day but I'd like to get her drinking cows milk. Not least because in a fortnight in leaving her for three days and two nights.

On my weaning thread somebody suggested a valved sippy cup. But any other thoughts appreciated.

does she tolerate other cows milk products e.g. cheese, yoghurt? Maybe she just doesnt like cows milk and it disagrees with her.

She seems fine with yogurts and cheese. Also often has porridge with milk in it so I don't think it's an intolerance etc to cows milk. Sorry I should have said that in my op.

I'm half considering expressing for her. But I did enough of that when she was teeny I'm not sure I can be bothered at this stage!

if she doesnt want to drink milk then you can make her intake up through her food by offering yoghurt, cheese, milky puddings, cereal, etc.

I'm just concerned that if I'm away and she's not getting a breastfeed or taking a cup of milk, then she won't get enough fluid from just her food

will she not take water and juice to hydrate and then the dairy products to get her calcium intake. Some children never drink milk but get their calcium through their food instead. Has she ever had formula? You could try a small carton and see if she keeps it down better than straight cows milk

Could you try a non-cows milk?

I would have thought water/juice (perhaps offering more often than usual) plus yoghurt/cheese/etc. would be sufficient for a few days at this stage?

Just a thought, and based on something I read somewhere ages ago so (a) I may have remembered it wrongly and (b) as I don't remember the source, it really may not be accurate even if I have, but... Has she ever had uncooked milk before, e.g. on cereal rather than in porridge? The thing I read said that both cooking milk (like when making porridge) and the processes of making cheese, yoghurt etc. all break down different amounts of the proteins in the milk, so that if a baby had CMPI they might be able to tolerate some of the more broken down products, but not those in their purest form. If she has never had uncooked cows' milk before, is it possible she is just very slightly intolerant, but only when it hasn't been cooked etc? If so, you could perhaps try a different milk, or even just 'cook' then cool it before giving it to her? Probably not what's going on, but I thought I'd mention just in case.

Thanks for all these suggestions.

I have attempted to express this afternoon and got a total of about 20ml.

Didn't get to supermarket today. But will go tomorrow and get valved sippy cup and some non cow milk (goats???).

I've been so keen to get her to drink cows milk. I guess I didn't click that maybe it doesn't matter if she doesn't.

Myself and my ds2 are like this.
We can have cheese, yoghurt, cream etc but not milk.
Makes us sick.

My DS1 never drank cow's milk, just drank water and got all his calcium etc from yoghurt, cheese, and other foods.

Sounds like a very very mild case of cows milk protein intolerance. Ds had it too I didnt twig his early colic and general insomnia was diet related it wasnt til he vommed each time he had cheese and butter that it all clicked. Dd has it acutely and at her worst screamed for 18 hours plus if I ate so much as a trace amount. So i've been dairy free since nov 2011. Ho
hum. Another species breast milk is a highly reactive thing to consume from an immunological point of view and many infants have problems with it.

I know, poppet when you actually think it through it is bizarre that we view cow milk as such a necessary thing for our babies and toddlers given its designed for a different species.

Hmm, I will express again tomorrow and see if she also voms when she has a beaker of human milk!

Well, it's taken me until today to get my act in gear and buy non cows milk. I bought goats milk. Not for any reason other than that it had a pretty package and said it was more often tolerated than cows milk or some such blurb.

She's taken 75mls which is the most she's ever taken and that was about 45 mins ago and no sickness yet. So fingers crossed. I'm leaving her for a weekend next weekend and am hopeful I won't need to express, and can just leave her with goats milk.

Thanks for everybody's input.